Is healing broken?

[Exosapien]

I've found it depends on the tank and how overconfident they are compared to their actual ability to tank.

As SGE I can keep up a tank that knows that they aren't over geared for brand new dungeons and only pulls extra packs when it's viable.

What I can't do anymore, is keep up a tank that doesn't use their own cooldowns and pulls wall to wall. Which is what like 75% of tanks are doing right now for some reason.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Got WHM & AST to 90 purely by dungeon spamming, soon SGE will follow suit. SCH had a smaller share of dungeon spam moments because it's my chosen main through the MSQ so it doesn't get as much time in the spam, but my point still stands: No, healing isn't broken.

What I'm seeing are more like:

1. Players still being unfamiliar with their chosen job changes.
   This is very apparent on the DPS players, and maybe some tanks. I see some wall pulls drags on longer than how it usually takes because (understandably) some players are still trying to figure out what are the best buttons to utilize. These players are decreasing in numbers as time goes by though.
2. Players still getting used to the gameplay after being hiatus for so long.
   There are some players who only resub for the MSQ content---the most casual of casuals. They're most likely have lost their old touch and won't be performing like your average constantly subbed players.

Ironically, while the lv81 dungeon hits the hardest of all EW leveling dungeon, it's still not on par with Holminster Switch of ShB imo. The difficulty curve sort of went downhill after clearing it, nothing's really threatening anymore from that point unless there are collective problems snowballing into disastrous run. What I found surprising is the last two capstone dungeon wall pulls can be quite spicy (bosses are snoozefest, as always), but conversely tanks and healer also have more tools to prevent 'oopsies'. I'm interested to find out if future gear creep will render these dungeon faceroll or not.

Gears also matters. Undergeared tanks will always be painful to heal, no matter which healer job you bring in.

EDIT: No, I don't necessarily use more healing spells either. I'm still required to cast heals more in pulls like Holminster 1st wall, Dohn Mheg walls, Mt.Gulg last wall and Bardam (lol). I also killed more tanks as an AST than the other healers cause I was so caught up with the new busy gameplay.

[KageTokage]

The quality of the tank/healer you're dealing with both in terms of gear and gameplay matters a lot.

I didn't find the first dungeon to be any rougher to tank then ShB's while doing wall to wall pulls whenever possible and the healer found ample time to DPS.

[DontReadThis]

The quality of the group will affect how easy it is.

For example, when I play as SCH in the expert dungeons:

• In groups with good dps and with tanks who manage their mitigation on pulls, I never have to touch a gcd heal.
• In groups where the dps is so slow that the trash is lasting forever or with tanks who don't mitigate because they're "saving it for the boss," I can feel the high blood pressure as I spam adlo and scream at aetherflow to come back off CD.

[Maxilor]

A couple people in my static feel that healing has become broken. With the stats squish they feel that they are healing more then DPS in dungeons.

Isn't this what Healers wanted?

[Sunako]

My sage is 79 and whm 82 and I have not noticed any difference to previous expansions

[RobynDaBank]

Did my first Pagl'than today and the tank was never, ever dropping below 60%. Then again they were a Warrior. Missed mechanics were quite easy to heal through - was just a matter of a nice Solace/Tetragrammation. Even if someone had Vuln Up +2 I could get them out of the spot just fine.

Dunno. It definitely did feel like I wasn't in half as much trouble. Perhaps that's to do with the dungeon? I have tried healing some Stormblood dungeons as SGE and it was buttery smooth also (tanks did lose health though).

I will be playing MSQ as WHM so maybe I could get back on this with better information.

[_Pigzig]

you want broken healing go to wow where 1 invicible healer stands there for a minute getting hit by 3 dpsers before dying

[Tavieon]

Too long didn't read all the thread:


Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.

[Juun]

Too long didn't read all the thread:


Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.

I was paired up with a mentor Sage and two sprout dps doing a 50 dungeon. SGE couldnt keep anyone alive at the very first boss.

Normally I dont mind if sprouts do a bad dps rotation as long as we stay alive but the mentor SGE was just so bad after the 4th attempt I just left since we didnt even get close to taking it down.