6.0 Healer Feedback Thread

[Maxilor]

Toxicon is a little less pointless as it's an AoE where it's generally better in total vs. Dyskrasia

That would depend on how many targets there was. I'm at work so I can't do the quick math, but how many targets would it take for Dyskrasia to do more DPS than Toxicon?

Reminder that Toxicon II is 330 Potency to first target and 50% less to all others...so 330 + 165 for each extra target.

Dyskrasia II is 170 to everyone no matter what.

[-BlueGreen-]

That would depend on how many targets there was. I'm at work so I can't do the quick math, but how many targets would it take for Dyskrasia to do more DPS than Toxicon?

Reminder that Toxicon is 300 Potency to first target and 50% less to all others...so 300 + 150 for each extra target.

Dyskrasia is 160 to everyone no matter what.

I figured I probably should have just done the math to post the numbers, but because Dyskrasia has more potency than the 50% all others of Toxicon, there's a break even point:

15 target Toxicon = 300 potency for first target + 150 potency for 14 targets for 2400 total
15 target Dyskrasia = 160 * 15 = 2400 total

In other words, less than 15 targets Toxicon is always better if you have a charge of it. After that, Dyskrasia edges ahead 10 potency per additional target. Granted, how often do you have 15+ mob pulls? Just don't think about it and use Toxicon if you have it in AoE. Besides, even though in theory you could do more absolute DPS by ignoring Toxicon completely at 16+ mobs, you'd probably benefit from the MP savings if you're already using Eukrasian Diagnosis to survive such a pull.

Note: the math does change at level 82
Toxicon II = 330 primary, 165 additional
Dyskrasia II = 170 all

Toxicon II: 330 + 32 * 165 = 5610
Dyskrasia II: 33 * 170 = 5610

For that case, you'd need 33 targets to break even. (lol, does that ever happen?)

My point still stands, Toxicon edges out Dyskrasia in virtually all AoE situations assuming you aren't casting Eukrasian Diagnosis for the sole purpose of triggering Toxicon.

If you're wondering, in 2 GCDs against just 2 targets (to try to benefit Toxicon II), DPS-wise (ignoring the effect on healing):

Eukrasion Diagnosis + Toxicon II = 495 total potency for damage
Dyskrasia II x2 = 680 total potency

Now, obviously, if you don't have any OGCDs to heal with and must use a GCD on healing, Eukrasian Diagnosis -> Toxicon in an AoE setup at least gives you a partial "refund" in terms of DPS lost to healing vs. just tossing out more Dyskrasias with this effect being more noticeable with fewer targets. Additionally, using Toxicon in such situations where you had to use Eukrasian Diagnosis to cover a lack of available OGCD heals also saves you the 400 MP that Dyskrasia would have cost if you had ignored Toxicon completely.