Thread: 6.0 Healer Feedback Thread

This is probably a futile exercise given how we do things over here in the NA forums but nonetheless, it is worth a shot. I'll try and have this thread as where this where we should try to have the feedback for Endwalker healer changes and experiences be to try and consolidate them all for an easier read rather than just making thread after thread in haste.

Granted, my own experiences have been just limited to the leveling process and are just limited to one healer at the moment, that healer being WHM. As of there, it has two extremes at the moment that I have noticed. If a tank is regularly using their cds and a regen is kept up on them, it's the same as usual as it was back in stormblood and shadowbringers. However, the moment those cooldowns are over, they take a rather drastic amount of damage where it doesn't feel bad to use cure 2. That being said, given the new vaules, a cure 2 restores like 40-50 percent of their hp outside of a crit.

On the Damage side, while single target dps feels more fluid with the new cast time (with the exception of Asylum since you still have to place it down) the aoe since it still just as clunky to weave but again this is just the leveling dungeon experience as of now.

I've only played SGE so far. I figured I'd spend my first day seeing how far I could level and see if I like it and I got it to level 80.

I can only give first impressions so far, because it's still the honeymoon period and it's too early to rate it in relation to what my pre-6.0 concerns have been.

I like how SGE heals and I have enjoyed the experience thus far.
Positives I note:
- I feel encouraged to actually shield heal. Compared to 5.0 SCH where you could heal more efficiently with your oGCD's. So far, my oGCD's haven't felt like enough and I can use my shields to help
- Being able to "detonate" shields is a good idea, Pepsis is better than Emergency Tactics because of this. Emergency Tactics + Succor mean your co-healer might have topped off the party members by the time you've finished the maneuver and it feels wasted.
- I like the Eukrasia mechanic, I like being able to augment abilities, it's something I liked about FFXI SCH and something I liked about old Dark Knight (and miss).
- How Eukrasia Prognosis/Diagnosis works is great for mobility and incentives me to use it over a non-Eukrasia one
- I like how Toxicon is built, it's another shield incentive, and it doesn't feel wasted.
- I like there's multiple DPS abilities, the AoE game is pretty good and has made trash pulls more engaging than SCH's Art of War spam.
- I've felt busier so far.

A few things I would improve on so far:
- The AoE's don't feel like they flow well into each other. I feel like Toxicon might work better as an oGCD.
- Maybe increase the AoE range of some DPS abilities...it's less of a problem in dungeons, but I guess this is a product of me doing FATEs and Bozja/Zadnor to level it.
- There still Dosis spamming

Where I still have concerns:
- How it will handle it feel when the honeymoon period is over and how healer downtime feels, how big it is a SGE and how make SGE managed to break it up. This is a "time will tell" thing, because this is dependent on the stat squish and getting it into content and getting over the period of "ooh shiny shiny" and getting better at playing the job.


Regardless, I definitely like it as a healer, so they are positive first impressions. I'll no doubt come back when I've had more than a day with it.

Still a terrible, boring exercise in spamming 1 button too much.

Originally Posted by Saefinn

I've only played SGE so far. I figured I'd spend my first day seeing how far I could level and see if I like it and I got it to level 80.

I can only give first impressions so far, because it's still the honeymoon period and it's too early to rate it in relation to what my pre-6.0 concerns have been.

I like how SGE heals and I have enjoyed the experience thus far.
Positives I note:
- I feel encouraged to actually shield heal. Compared to 5.0 SCH where you could heal more efficiently with your oGCD's. So far, my oGCD's haven't felt like enough and I can use my shields to help
- Being able to "detonate" shields is a good idea, Pepsis is better than Emergency Tactics because of this. Emergency Tactics + Succor mean your co-healer might have topped off the party members by the time you've finished the maneuver and it feels wasted.
- I like the Eukrasia mechanic, I like being able to augment abilities, it's something I liked about FFXI SCH and something I liked about old Dark Knight (and miss).
- How Eukrasia Prognosis/Diagnosis works is great for mobility and incentives me to use it over a non-Eukrasia one
- I like how Toxicon is built, it's another shield incentive, and it doesn't feel wasted.
- I like there's multiple DPS abilities, the AoE game is pretty good and has made trash pulls more engaging than SCH's Art of War spam.
- I've felt busier so far.

A few things I would improve on so far:
- The AoE's don't feel like they flow well into each other. I feel like Toxicon might work better as an oGCD.
- Maybe increase the AoE range of some DPS abilities...it's less of a problem in dungeons, but I guess this is a product of me doing FATEs and Bozja/Zadnor to level it.
- There still Dosis spamming

Where I still have concerns:
- How it will handle it feel when the honeymoon period is over and how healer downtime feels, how big it is a SGE and how make SGE managed to break it up. This is a "time will tell" thing, because this is dependent on the stat squish and getting it into content and getting over the period of "ooh shiny shiny" and getting better at playing the job.


Regardless, I definitely like it as a healer, so they are positive first impressions. I'll no doubt come back when I've had more than a day with it.

I agree with everything but Toxicon. I feel like it's a waste most of the time outside of heavy movement fights. As said in another thread, it's built up like Afflatus Misery but in reality it's just Ruin II with net neutral dps.

I just feel like i'm missing something about it, because I don't see why I would use it over Dosis for Single Target (outside of heavy movement) or Dyskrasia for AOE.

Originally Posted by Maxilor

I agree with everything but Toxicon. I feel like it's a waste most of the time outside of heavy movement fights. As said in another thread, it's built up like Afflatus Misery but in reality it's just Ruin II with net neutral dps.

I just feel like i'm missing something about it, because I don't see why I would use it over Dosis for Single Target (outside of heavy movement) or Dyskrasia for AOE.

My "waste" comment is more to the using a shield to get it. But I agree with you, I was going to make a comment about how it has no benefit over Dosis as I have before when looking at the tooltips, but my mentioning of making Toxicon an oGCD would be a solution.

I think the way to address is either:
- Make Toxicon more powerful for the first target to benefit single target use
- Make a single target equivalent of Toxicon that is advantageous over Dosis
- Make it an oGCD so you can weave it.

IMHO I think having it as an oGCD would help it flow better at the same time.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

SCH is fully capable of healing almost anything.

That being said, with Fey Blessing removing the Fairy Gauge cost, the ONLY spender is Fey Union, so what's the point of the fairy gauge anymore?

The gauge itself takes way too long to fill.

Fey Union, you said it yourself.

The gauge fills at a reasonable pace and it's a non-issue really, as there is no skill you unlocks/gets stronger at 100 fairy gauge anyway.