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[GamesGainingTTV]

It's considered toxic in this community to complain when it's been SEVEN DAYS since people have been able to play the game because SE, who knew over a year ago this problem would occur, did not take steps to prevent it? You can't even say "oh it's covid theres no parts to make more servers". Every single launch in MMO history has had a large influx of people to try it out and servers have always been overloaded, it's very clear that they did not take steps to prevent this. You can claim they said they were doing things to try, but the fact that they waited SO LONG to even attempt steps shows how poorly this was planned. Go ahead and respond with your flames, but as someone who played wow for 15 years, has 5 level 80's (Non-boost) on GW2, a 65 on rift when it was level cap, a level 100 on DFO, among many other games. It's common sense that this was going to happen and they waited way too long, knowing full well that this would be the result.

[Gameovers]

It's considered toxic in this community to complain when it's been SEVEN DAYS since people have been able to play the game because SE, who knew over a year ago this problem would occur, did not take steps to prevent it? You can't even say "oh it's covid theres no parts to make more servers". Every single launch in MMO history has had a large influx of people to try it out and servers have always been overloaded, it's very clear that they did not take steps to prevent this. You can claim they said they were doing things to try, but the fact that they waited SO LONG to even attempt steps shows how poorly this was planned. Go ahead and respond with your flames, but as someone who played wow for 15 years, has 5 level 80's (Non-boost) on GW2, a 65 on rift when it was level cap, a level 100 on DFO, among many other games. It's common sense that this was going to happen and they waited way too long, knowing full well that this would be the result.

So they knew Blizzard was abusing their workers, which in turn made big time streamers leave WoW which in turn in record breaking timing all came to XIV which in itself broke records which was just like what 2 to 3 months BEFORE EW released? You mean SquareEnix knew all of THAT? Fuck if they did I want that shit cause they can predict the future no matter how random it can be.

[JohncarterIx]

Girl from blizzard killed her self to because of what a dev did to her at a party passing out a bad prvt picture . Bad picture . Thats why lawsuite

[Imora]

Girl from blizzard killed her self to because of what a dev did to her at a party passing out a bad prvt picture . Bad picture . Thats why lawsuite

And this my friends, is why you don't take that sort of picture to begin with.

Not to say it's right, its just a word of warning. You can't trust anyone to not be jerks.

[Rhysati]

And this my friends, is why you don't take that sort of picture to begin with.

Not to say it's right, its just a word of warning. You can't trust anyone to not be jerks.

You realize that this is victim-blaming right?

[CazzT]

So they knew Blizzard was abusing their workers, which in turn made big time streamers leave WoW which in turn in record breaking timing all came to XIV which in itself broke records which was just like what 2 to 3 months BEFORE EW released? You mean SquareEnix knew all of THAT? Fuck if they did I want that shit cause they can predict the future no matter how random it can be.

FFXIV has been growing for YEARS. The spike in population in 2021 is irrelevant in the face of that fact. Market analysts would have seen the rate at which the population was growing and would have told SE that they need to deal with the problem, and they would have said that long before "muh chip shortage" and covid and Blizz being outted as the trash company they are. All of you that keep harping on about "muh population spike" just ignore reality and the fact that the population of FFXIV was already seeing a massive increase in its rate of growth long before your precious spike. And the problems with servers go back years, not months.

You do know the server shortage has been going on more then a year lol

Also they didnt know it was going to be this bad a year ago. They started looking into getting new servers once que times started many months ago and couldnt obtain any to this day due to production and on time of that they couldnt predict the influx of players during covid nor could predict that a good amount of WoW players also transferred over.

Do some research before post again or you will make yourself look like an uneducated Karen again

The irony of you disrespectfully calling someone "karen" and telling them to "do some research" when you need to do some yourself about the server issues FFXIV has had and the rate at which the population for FFXIV has been growing for years.

[Zileth]

FFXIV has been growing for YEARS. The spike in population in 2021 is irrelevant in the face of that fact. Market analysts would have seen the rate at which the population was growing and would have told SE that they need to deal with the problem, and they would have said that long before "muh chip shortage" and covid and Blizz being outted as the trash company they are. All of you that keep harping on about "muh population spike" just ignore reality and the fact that the population of FFXIV was already seeing a massive increase in its rate of growth long before your precious spike. And the problems with servers go back years, not months.
The irony of you disrespectfully calling someone "karen" and telling them to "do some research" when you need to do some yourself about the server issues FFXIV has had and the rate at which the population for FFXIV has been growing for years.

You do know the shortages started happening in 2020 right also slowly growing and huge spikes arnt the same. If servers were easily obtain when we started to see que times what about a year ago SE would have already added them since when they made the original announcement about monitoring the population and looking into getting new servers online however made a follow up announcement a bit later on they are still having issues getting servers and still monitoring the population increase and thats when they started to warn the player base that que times most likely will start getting longer at the rate the population is growing and that will see another player spike once EW would release but they hope to have new servers up and running and then did another announcement once we started to see a large spike saying they still cant get servers and also looked in to Cloud servers which wouldnt work for FF14 and warned again que times are going to get bad till they can get new servers

Or

Did you not do your research which clearly you didnt

[Krotoan]

FFXIV has been growing for YEARS. The spike in population in 2021 is irrelevant in the face of that fact. Market analysts would have seen the rate at which the population was growing and would have told SE that they need to deal with the problem, and they would have said that long before "muh chip shortage" and covid and Blizz being outted as the trash company they are. All of you that keep harping on about "muh population spike" just ignore reality and the fact that the population of FFXIV was already seeing a massive increase in its rate of growth long before your precious spike. And the problems with servers go back years, not months.
The irony of you disrespectfully calling someone "karen" and telling them to "do some research" when you need to do some yourself about the server issues FFXIV has had and the rate at which the population for FFXIV has been growing for years.

FFXIV active population Tripled in one year (if not 4 months). This was not even close to anything anyone could have projected AND they were growing along with their market projected growth. They had plans to expand servers and capacity that were delayed.

You can complain about all manner of things this game does wrong, but faulting a company for not foreseeing the crash of the industry leader along with a mass exodus makes your position weak. Launches are always rough, but this is one is especially rough because of several unavoidable factors.

[CazzT]

FFXIV active population Tripled in one year (if not 4 months). This was not even close to anything anyone could have projected AND they were growing along with their market projected growth. They had plans to expand servers and capacity that were delayed.

If they had plans to expand server capacity, that means they had already projected the need for it. Where did they get the data for such a projection? They had the sales numbers, they had years of data showing MAU growth and the rate at which MAU was increasing. So you're basically calling their market analysts idiots. But you're also stuck on the spike from 2021. Which would have had absolutely nothing to do with their plans to expand server capacity because that was already planned by the summer, they had mentioned it prior to that.

You white knights really need to get off the "muh population spike" and look at the proceeding years growth numbers. But that's obviously asking for far too much of your side. You white knights also need to stop gaslighting people.

You can complain about all manner of things this game does wrong, but faulting a company for not foreseeing the crash of the industry leader along with a mass exodus makes your position weak. Launches are always rough, but this is one is especially rough because of several unavoidable factors.

Blizzard's fall is irrelevant, as has been pointed out over and over and over and over. But you can't take your blinders off to see anything but that. And when that's all you can see it blinds you to how weak your own position is. It illustrates a lack of understanding and knowledge of MAU, population data, and how those are used to predict needs far in advance. There was nothing unavoidable about this if SE had not treated FFXIV like the red-headed step child of the company, like they've been doing for years.

What baffles me most, though, is how I've repeatedly brought up the previous years' growth and rate of growth increase, but you and yours just outright ignore that and tunnel vision on "muh 2021 spike". It's like having a broken leg but you're more worried about the papercut on your finger.
Case in point....

Please tell me, how SE could have predicted the mass exodus from WoW, and a global pandemic that has caused supply chain shortages for hundreds of industries across the globe?

[Krotoan]

If they had plans to expand server capacity, that means they had already projected the need for it. Where did they get the data for such a projection? They had the sales numbers, they had years of data showing MAU growth and the rate at which MAU was increasing. So you're basically calling their market analysts idiots. But you're also stuck on the spike from 2021. Which would have had absolutely nothing to do with their plans to expand server capacity because that was already planned by the summer, they had mentioned it prior to that.

You white knights really need to get off the "muh population spike" and look at the proceeding years growth numbers. But that's obviously asking for far too much of your side. You white knights also need to stop gaslighting people.

The only one here gaslighting is you. There was no indication the growth would be this exponential and they were on track to grow with their playerbase with current numbers. YOU are the one calling their analysts idiots since you're claiming they had this information yet did not stress the importance of huge growth tolerances.

Call it whatever you like, you're provably wrong.

Blizzard's fall is irrelevant, as has been pointed out over and over and over and over. But you can't take your blinders off to see anything but that. And when that's all you can see it blinds you to how weak your own position is. It illustrates a lack of understanding and knowledge of MAU, population data, and how those are used to predict needs far in advance. There was nothing unavoidable about this if SE had not treated FFXIV like the red-headed step child of the company, like they've been doing for years.

What baffles me most, though, is how I've repeatedly brought up the previous years' growth and rate of growth increase, but you and yours just outright ignore that and tunnel vision on "muh 2021 spike". It's like having a broken leg but you're more worried about the papercut on your finger.
Case in point....

Saying that a tripling of active player pop is "irrelevant" shows exactly how little you understand about the problem and how much of your "truth" is based on infantile rage.



SE was planning well in advance for the growth necessary to maintain current trends. They then got hit with a unpredictable and unpreventable storm of lack of supply as well as huge increase in demand.