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    why do you think it was an emergency? hamster pedalling the wheel for power had to be rushed to ER or somethin?
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    Followup report is up. States the maintenance should end at 12:50 AM PST. So soon.

    Edit: Game is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    FFXIV active population Tripled in one year (if not 4 months). This was not even close to anything anyone could have projected AND they were growing along with their market projected growth. They had plans to expand servers and capacity that were delayed.
    If they had plans to expand server capacity, that means they had already projected the need for it. Where did they get the data for such a projection? They had the sales numbers, they had years of data showing MAU growth and the rate at which MAU was increasing. So you're basically calling their market analysts idiots. But you're also stuck on the spike from 2021. Which would have had absolutely nothing to do with their plans to expand server capacity because that was already planned by the summer, they had mentioned it prior to that.

    You white knights really need to get off the "muh population spike" and look at the proceeding years growth numbers. But that's obviously asking for far too much of your side. You white knights also need to stop gaslighting people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You can complain about all manner of things this game does wrong, but faulting a company for not foreseeing the crash of the industry leader along with a mass exodus makes your position weak. Launches are always rough, but this is one is especially rough because of several unavoidable factors.
    Blizzard's fall is irrelevant, as has been pointed out over and over and over and over. But you can't take your blinders off to see anything but that. And when that's all you can see it blinds you to how weak your own position is. It illustrates a lack of understanding and knowledge of MAU, population data, and how those are used to predict needs far in advance. There was nothing unavoidable about this if SE had not treated FFXIV like the red-headed step child of the company, like they've been doing for years.

    What baffles me most, though, is how I've repeatedly brought up the previous years' growth and rate of growth increase, but you and yours just outright ignore that and tunnel vision on "muh 2021 spike". It's like having a broken leg but you're more worried about the papercut on your finger.
    Case in point....
    Quote Originally Posted by Esper56 View Post
    Please tell me, how SE could have predicted the mass exodus from WoW, and a global pandemic that has caused supply chain shortages for hundreds of industries across the globe?
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    Last edited by CazzT; 12-08-2021 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    The sooner they address problems the less they will need to do maintenance and you can't really complain that they want to keep a smooth experience given that the xpac just officially launched. Y'all need to take a chill pill.
    I agree but there are always people around that are "damned if you do and damned if you don't" folks. If they gave them a free subscription for life, they'd still say it's not good enough and ask for blood.
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    What baffles me most, though, is how I've repeatedly brought up the previous years' growth and rate of growth increase, but you and yours just outright ignore that and tunnel vision on "muh 2021 spike". It's like having a broken leg but you're more worried about the papercut on your finger.
    Case in point....
    I wouldn't consider a growth rate tripling in 4 months, a papercut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esper56 View Post
    I wouldn't consider a growth rate tripling in 4 months, a papercut.
    It is when you've needed to deal with the larger problem for years already. But you'd understand that if you'd read more than just that tiny bit of my post you cherrypicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    If they had plans to expand server capacity, that means they had already projected the need for it. Where did they get the data for such a projection? They had the sales numbers, they had years of data showing MAU growth and the rate at which MAU was increasing. So you're basically calling their market analysts idiots. But you're also stuck on the spike from 2021. Which would have had absolutely nothing to do with their plans to expand server capacity because that was already planned by the summer, they had mentioned it prior to that.

    You white knights really need to get off the "muh population spike" and look at the proceeding years growth numbers. But that's obviously asking for far too much of your side. You white knights also need to stop gaslighting people.
    The only one here gaslighting is you. There was no indication the growth would be this exponential and they were on track to grow with their playerbase with current numbers. YOU are the one calling their analysts idiots since you're claiming they had this information yet did not stress the importance of huge growth tolerances.

    Call it whatever you like, you're provably wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Blizzard's fall is irrelevant, as has been pointed out over and over and over and over. But you can't take your blinders off to see anything but that. And when that's all you can see it blinds you to how weak your own position is. It illustrates a lack of understanding and knowledge of MAU, population data, and how those are used to predict needs far in advance. There was nothing unavoidable about this if SE had not treated FFXIV like the red-headed step child of the company, like they've been doing for years.

    What baffles me most, though, is how I've repeatedly brought up the previous years' growth and rate of growth increase, but you and yours just outright ignore that and tunnel vision on "muh 2021 spike". It's like having a broken leg but you're more worried about the papercut on your finger.
    Case in point....
    Saying that a tripling of active player pop is "irrelevant" shows exactly how little you understand about the problem and how much of your "truth" is based on infantile rage.



    SE was planning well in advance for the growth necessary to maintain current trends. They then got hit with a unpredictable and unpreventable storm of lack of supply as well as huge increase in demand.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    It is when you've needed to deal with the larger problem for years already. But you'd understand that if you'd read more than just that tiny bit of my post you cherrypicked.
    Alright so just to address your analytics approach, I did a little research. How accurate these numbers are, I don't know. But https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv/stats is the source I'm using for this.

    The growth alone, in the last 6 months, has gone from 26 million, to 35 million. Thats a 9 million increase in subscriber count.

    That's a bigger growth than 2 years from 2017 to 2019. In a quarter of the time.

    Again, How can you sit here and tell me, that the exodus from WoW has played no part in this?
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    Many people complain. I'm sure Square Enix heard it loud and clear. Seeing some people repeatedly wasting energy complaining the same thing instead of looking for workarounds won't get it fixed anytime soon. Some solutions may work for them. I already got mine.

    Not even once with 2002 on Tonberry server on day 2 onwards. I queue with around 700 in line trying to beat the peak hours.
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    Last edited by TristanX; 12-08-2021 at 06:22 PM.

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    we are back in action baby
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