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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    There is a difference between criticism and baseless accusations and attacks on the company, its workers, and the game that many of the complainers are committing in a childish tantrum simply because something is inconveniencing them.
    And it's posts like yours, trivializing the "inconvenience" that we've been dealing with, an "inconvenience" that SE was well aware would happen. I will defend Yoshi-P in this every time. It's not his decision to purchase/rent servers. That's 100% on SE. So to sit there acting like SE doesn't deserve the loathing they're getting for issues they had years to prevent if they would use the money FFXIV makes on FFXIV instead of keep their other franchises on life support, is insulting not to just us, but to you as well. Have some self respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zileth View Post
    You do know the shortages started happening in 2020 right also slowly growing and huge spikes arnt the same.
    Not even gonna bother with the rest of your post if this is the tripe you're gonna try to counter with. When I said "years", plural, that clearly means well beyond 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    And it's posts like yours, trivializing the "inconvenience" that we've been dealing with
    That's all it is. It's an inconvenience. Nothing more.

    Are peoples' lives really so without actual problems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    FFXIV has been growing for YEARS. The spike in population in 2021 is irrelevant in the face of that fact. Market analysts would have seen the rate at which the population was growing and would have told SE that they need to deal with the problem, and they would have said that long before "muh chip shortage" and covid and Blizz being outted as the trash company they are. All of you that keep harping on about "muh population spike" just ignore reality and the fact that the population of FFXIV was already seeing a massive increase in its rate of growth long before your precious spike. And the problems with servers go back years, not months.
    The irony of you disrespectfully calling someone "karen" and telling them to "do some research" when you need to do some yourself about the server issues FFXIV has had and the rate at which the population for FFXIV has been growing for years.
    FFXIV active population Tripled in one year (if not 4 months). This was not even close to anything anyone could have projected AND they were growing along with their market projected growth. They had plans to expand servers and capacity that were delayed.

    You can complain about all manner of things this game does wrong, but faulting a company for not foreseeing the crash of the industry leader along with a mass exodus makes your position weak. Launches are always rough, but this is one is especially rough because of several unavoidable factors.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  4. #34
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    there is a giant lever at SE that can turn off lag and server queues but the company is TOO CHEAP to hire an employee to pull the lever. if i was the ceo of SE i would have definately hired a person to pull the lever which would have actually made the company more profit and this is why i am definitely the smartest person ever. just so you know i have max level characters in a lot of games (non-boosted) so now you know that i am a supply chain / logistics / networking expert and that my idea of having an employee of pulling the lever would have made the company at least one thousand dollars profit. smh i cant believe SE doesnt even want to fix it or even do a server maintenance just because they are cheap
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  5. #35
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    We really need to calm down sometimes and let SE do whatever they can to fix this. The lengths they go to explain situations to us is astounding.
    Other than that Krotoan summed it up nicely.

    I know people want to play and only have like 1-3 hours for example, which isnt possible with the current queue. But the maintenance and everything they did before launch showing, they care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    FFXIV has been growing for YEARS. The spike in population in 2021 is irrelevant in the face of that fact. Market analysts would have seen the rate at which the population was growing and would have told SE that they need to deal with the problem, and they would have said that long before "muh chip shortage" and covid and Blizz being outted as the trash company they are. All of you that keep harping on about "muh population spike" just ignore reality and the fact that the population of FFXIV was already seeing a massive increase in its rate of growth long before your precious spike. And the problems with servers go back years, not months.
    How are there still people pulling this nonsense? You're acting like they've done nothing at all since 2.0 relaunch to improve capacity.

    Splitting NA and EU data centers, resulting in significant login capacity increase.
    Adding four new servers to EU, significantly increasing active player cap.
    And preparing to implement OCE data center, an unprecedented move to improve playability for an entire region of players, as well as significantly lightening the burden in other regions by spreading the load.

    The last one is important because the planning and beginning stages for that happened way back last year, not so long after 5.0 launch. Which means they knew growth would require new hardware back then and began the process to address it with what they predicted would be sufficient. That process was expected to be completed by 6.0 launch. And it ran into delays.
    The fact that they began this process so long ago should give you a pretty big hint where they might be on adding any more hardware anywhere else to deal with a population growth that began to exceed predictions and expectations. If OCE was predicted to alleviate congestion growing by old model expectations, nothing they could or would want to do to adjust to current models would've even been operational before 6.1 at best.

    In short, the player population has been growing for years. And the infrastructure and hardware has also been growing at pace. But there's nothing they can do fast enough to react to that population growth massively accelerating. They're already hit with delays on one major project, any other upgrades or acquisitions will necessarily have to happen after that project is complete.
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    The sooner they address problems the less they will need to do maintenance and you can't really complain that they want to keep a smooth experience given that the xpac just officially launched. Y'all need to take a chill pill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    How are there still people pulling this nonsense? You're acting like they've done nothing at all since 2.0 relaunch to improve capacity.
    Nice gaslighting. Nothing in anything I've said even remotely says, nor implies, any such nonsense. And since this is how you're going to start reply to me, there's no point in bothering with the rest of your drivel since it will all be based on a bad faith argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    The only thing I know for sure from all of this is the memes it spawned, and most prominently Errorwalker or WoWwalker
    LOL, where is that Micheal Jackson eating popcorn gif when I need it, that one always cracks me up when I see it here and is how I relate to reading these threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    And it's posts like yours, trivializing the "inconvenience" that we've been dealing with, an "inconvenience" that SE was well aware would happen. I will defend Yoshi-P in this every time. It's not his decision to purchase/rent servers. That's 100% on SE. So to sit there acting like SE doesn't deserve the loathing they're getting for issues they had years to prevent if they would use the money FFXIV makes on FFXIV instead of keep their other franchises on life support, is insulting not to just us, but to you as well. Have some self respect.

    Not even gonna bother with the rest of your post if this is the tripe you're gonna try to counter with. When I said "years", plural, that clearly means well beyond 2020.
    Please tell me, how SE could have predicted the mass exodus from WoW, and a global pandemic that has caused supply chain shortages for hundreds of industries across the globe?
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