Enough is enough

[Maxilor]

So common sense. Well, I tell you something about common sense. We subscribed to a service where we pay money for. SE is not able at this point in time to provide that service for me (and others) to an extent that I am comfortable with. When I come home at 7 pm I stare at a queue of around 8k players waiting, even if I do not get disconnected I face around 4 hours plus to wait. By that time i have to go sleep because my night ends at 5:30 am.

So common sense for me is, if SE is not able to provide a service worth the money, they don´t get any money from me unless they are. I do not care 1 cent why they are not able to. I am aware of the semiconductor shortage, I work in IT for over 25 years as a system engineer. Where I work we suffer from that too, but you know what, our customers don´t freaking care too, they care about us providing the service they paid for. That´s how business works, it does not work with excuses.

Honestly what is that with gamers excusing every- and anything so easily, you are customers and you and your money is more worth than Square Enix is providing at the moment.

My subscription ends by the end of december, if this shit show is going on by then, i won´t resubscribe. That´s my common sense.

I would agree with this if you weren't already being compensated with free game time and (according to the devs) you will CONTINUE to be compensated with free game time until the issues are solved.

You're essentially playing the game for free right now and until the issues are solved, so relax.

[EtherRose]

I would agree with this if you weren't already being compensated with free game time and (according to the devs) you will CONTINUE to be compensated with free game time until the issues are solved.

You're essentially playing the game for free right now and until the issues are solved, so relax.

I've had my fair share of that type of person in retail. The Karen's, basically. Even when the company is facing problems beyond their grasp and they try to compensate their customers to keep them happy they just get spit on. The customer of course would gladly take the compensation but in the end they always want more. The "I do not care 1 cent why they are not able to" attitude gives it away. Ignorance at best.

In case people are lost, this reply is in regards to Mordranar.

[Zabuza]

Sir/ma'am what planet do you live on?? On Planet Earth no one hands out money for free. Hell!!! you can barely get a millionaire to give you 5 dollars. They would look at you like you just took the last of their paycheck. The apologies are nice and great and all, but I have to agree with Mordranar all the way. And i can understand him NOT wanting to pay for something but he can't play it like he wants and when he wants.

I for one LOVE FFXIV and I LOVE Yoshi-P and his crew but only adults who manage their money will see that giving out money, right now, for free is not something most of us can do if we can avoid it. Let us not forget, but we are smack dap in the middle of a pandemic. For most of us playing FFXIV after a hard day of work is what relaxes us, along side a glass of liquor. I hate to say it, but I kinda feel like I am handing SE my money as well. I had to literally get up this morning at 3 A.M, which is my gym time, just to log on and play. Doing that I had to say No to the gym this morning. That is NOT going to be a option. Not turning into a fat bastard over Square-Enix and their choices of doing things.

You aren't giving them money for free. You paid no extra for early access and you got a refund of 7 days of sub time, which has not even been reached yet.

[Xuled]

I took PTO for Endwalker and wow it was fantastic. Beat it during early access, zero server issues. Got to stay logged in too.

[Velnora]

They botched it. Which, it happens. They are human. They are not infallible. But if you love the game, call them out on their mistakes, so they can do better.

And inb4 "there is nothing they could have done". Isn't it peculiar how they waited till official release for

"We are now ready to deploy the backup development servers to the public lobby servers, which will improve the capacity management of the lobby server and raise the maximum number of players in the queue to around 21,000. Since this will not require any maintenance, we will err on the side of caution and proceed with the deployment outside of peak hours. It is scheduled to be completed late in the night of December 7".

Early Access is just a stress test. They should of done this, a loong time ago.

[Darksummoner]

The question is though, how long until you noticed until you were booted from queue? Because if you logged back in as soon as you got the error you would have been in the same place in queue. This has been confirmed by me and many others from my discord. I don't know if it's the same all around but if every time I dc/d and I immediately logged back in and had the same queue position as I had before and others said the same thing than I'm going to stick with that. So apparently you waited to long to log back in or just didn't notice in time that you got kicked and took to long to get back in to keep your spot.

So on my computer screen, since I have a 35 inch monitor, I have a movie going on a minimal view. That way I can see the view of FFXIV Que while it counts down to letting me in. So as soon as the Error 2002 message pops up, I click it and then relog back into the que.


There was one time last night when I got down in the que to around 2K from 4k something. Saw the error 2002 pop up. immediately logged back in and it put me back in que to 4.8K something. Talk about pissed off.

[Pixelburst]

If you took pto and can't play that's a you problem.

are you assuming I took PTO? Cuz I didn't.

[Darksummoner]

Honest question... What do you want? You sound so angry at these queues, and I understand that to an extent, but what do you think acting like a child will accomplish?

This will be my last reply to this thread cause some of the replies, Including my own, are getting out of hand, stupid, and just plain smart mouth at this point. I guess I am the only child in this thread. Disregard all the other angry folks that have replied here. I AM THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING. Square-Enix needs to do better at this point....much better. When the booty grabbers in that other company is doing better then them then that is a HUGE problem. Enough said...moving on the next topic.

[Zabuza]

This will be my last reply to this thread cause some of the replies, Including my own, are getting out of hand, stupid, and just plain smart mouth at this point. I guess I am the only child in this thread. Disregard all the other angry folks that have replied here. I AM THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING. Square-Enix needs to do better at this point....much better. When the booty grabbers in that other company is doing better then them then that is a HUGE problem. Enough said...moving on the next topic.

You're not the only one complaining, but that doesn't change the fact that SE is doing everything they can. That other company doing better? They have literal ghost towns of servers and their game is dying. That is what you would prefer? Are you kidding?

[BigHoffie]

This will be my last reply to this thread cause some of the replies, Including my own, are getting out of hand, stupid, and just plain smart mouth at this point. I guess I am the only child in this thread. Disregard all the other angry folks that have replied here. I AM THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING. Square-Enix needs to do better at this point....much better. When the booty grabbers in that other company is doing better then them then that is a HUGE problem. Enough said...moving on the next topic.

I know you're not the only one complaining. I really empathize with the attitude as well, I have had many frustrating interactions with the game this weekend. But I asked you a question and your response was "do better". What does that even mean? If you want anyone to take you seriously, maybe "do better" with telling us what you think anyone can and should do... But hey, maybe you just wanna scream into the void and don't want the void to answer back. In which case I suggest your porch instead of a public forum.