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  1. #311
    Player
    Warpstone's Avatar
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    Warpstone Slider
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I'm enjoying the new summoner. I like it much better than before. But every one has their own opinion.
    (11)

  2. #312
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Flan Vongola
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Riusvell View Post
    Your solution doesn't work for everyone, because out of all the jobs there were a grand total of two that I actually enjoyed.
    Right now I'm just putting up with the mess of a job that this is until they hopefully fix the glaring design flaws so I'm not fighting against the one job I have been playing since I started.

    It's also incredibly rude to tell people to "find another job" if some could only play one or maybe a second job that they actually liked.
    I love myself some magic users but I loathe healing, but I disagree with Black Mage's favouritism not to mention how I have been treated in ARR and to an extend to this day due to the caster environment. Red Mage is absolutely not my thing and it just doesn't bring me any sort of enjoyment nor do I even enjoy it's magicks.
    I dont see where it is rude. It was just my opinion. Wether you agree or disagree, is up to anyone. Im not forcing them to change their mind. But just because some people dont like current Summoner, doesnt mean others dont like it either.
    So, there are 2 sides, that will be upset if they decide to do something. A rollback to the old dot-class is gonna upset another group. We will have another round of complains.
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  3. #313
    Player
    Raidoser's Avatar
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    Character
    Raido Voluspa
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    It's not as nervous as before but at least the gameplay is clean/constant from the start (Summoner will be my new go to job for doing under lvl 60 content) and they can easily expand the rotation for the next expansion without making a mess of it because that's what the old summoner was : a mess of mechanics you weaved as cleanly as you could together (it was still fun but chaotic and not good for the growth of the job).
    (4)

  4. #314
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Medorii View Post
    LOL CASTER NERDS ARE MAD
    Hold kjeft!!
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  5. #315
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralts View Post
    Re-read your complaint and tell me it's not for the sake of complaining? Garuda making you have to long-cast is a difference; ifrit having you jump to an enemy is a difference; titan having you double-spam is a difference. It's changes your way to play, strategizing what summon to use next to not lose dps. The game is not an idle button mash, you also have to consider dodging and positioning.

    I already accepted the summoner for what it is and it's no use complaining over something that has been changed already. I love the aesthetic of summoner in every FF game, but this SMN's playstyle we had until 5.x was not for me, so I mained something else. Now I tried it again, it's different, but I didn't compare. I like it, so I continued playing. That, for me, is all there is to it.
    Reread my complaint and maybe try to understand what my point is.
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  6. #316
    Player
    Ralts's Avatar
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    Dec 2014
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    Character
    Tietra Elm
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Reread my complaint and maybe try to understand what my point is.
    What you wanted to convey with your complaint, didn't come as intended. A complaint about not having any differences, where you pointed that there're indeed differences. I dunno with you, dude.
    I'm having fun with the class. If you think(in your own opinion) that the reiteration of this class is unacceptable, then maybe write them a letter? Alot of people are having a blast with the new summoner and it's being praised in tons of videos on youtube. So, I think you're voiceless in this matter.

    So, bye and have fun with whatever you think is fun.
    (1)

  7. #317
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    Melorie's Avatar
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    Character
    Melorie Valliere
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralts View Post
    If you think(in your own opinion) that the reiteration of this class is unacceptable, then maybe write them a letter?
    They're in the forum of the game, a place meant for feedback. This is the place for complaining or discussing changes. If you can't stand people discussing the changes the game had... Well, maybe you are in the wrong place?
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  8. #318
    Player
    Ralts's Avatar
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    Character
    Tietra Elm
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    They're in the forum of the game, a place meant for feedback. This is the place for complaining or discussing changes. If you can't stand people discussing the changes the game had... Well, maybe you are in the wrong place?
    mhm, complaining is one thing, but making your opinion look like it's the voice of the majority is another
    (2)

  9. #319
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    Reign_Fall's Avatar
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    Character
    Reign Fall
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 81
    Happy I'm not the only one that feels the disappointment, lol. I've played summoner as my main since it's release pretty much, and I just don't like what they did at all. Totally killed my enjoyment to even use it. At least I'm enjoying the updates to black/red mage and bard, so there's that.
    (8)

  10. #320
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    Melorie's Avatar
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    Character
    Melorie Valliere
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralts View Post
    mhm, complaining is one thing, but making your opinion look like it's the voice of the majority is another
    Idk, I don't really feel that anyone here has passed on that impression. That's on you. People can get heated while discussing and end up pouring too much of their own personal bubble, but that's true for both sides. Trying to invalidate the discussion because of it is not productive.
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