New summoner is unacceptable

[IncrediblyConfused]

I have to agree on how this job feels.. And I've been enjoying rdm a lot.. smn feels like I am doing absolutely nothing, just spamming ruin and the other ability that changes depending on summons.
I am very disappointed :/ especially because I love the class fantasy.. I am even considering to pick up blm now.

[Medorii]

LOL CASTER NERDS ARE MAD

[Ralts]

Re-read your comment and tell me it's not calling someone toxic for having a different opinion?

You doing that might explain why you evidently fail to understand the meaning of the word "feedback".
As I enjoy food analogies: do you also e.g. accept a burnt and bland meal at a restaurant because "it's no use complaining over something that has been changed"?

The new SMN is just utterly dull, lifeless with 0 skill-ceiling: why are there even filler spells left if the new class fantasy is to let the egis to all the work?

Didn't I write there "I"? I didn't tell you to accept it for what it is. I wrote I

If you're gonna nitpick, atleast read better. And no, the new summoner isn't dull. If you're gonna be negative about something, atleast claim that it's your opinion. You don't speak for every player.

[Puc]

Summoner feels like this is what it was truly meant to be, no need for button bloat just for the sake of it. Amazingly well thought out skills and feel of it now compared to that mess if finger twisting it was. Made it hard to choose between using summoner, sage, or reaper now for story due to me not expecting it to be so well redone.

[xbahax92]

Imo, many other jobs are dull as well. Machinist, Dark Knight, Scholar. They didnt receive any love in this expansion. Not a sinlge change to their gauges.
The complains here are all subjective. Some people like the new Summoner, some dont. Past years have been the very same. People start to find their "new" love and interest for another job.

My solution for you: you have enough other jobs to try out.

[Riusvell]

Imo, many other jobs are dull as well. Machinist, Dark Knight, Scholar. They didnt receive any love in this expansion. Not a sinlge change to their gauges.
The complains here are all subjective. Some people like the new Summoner, some dont. Past years have been the very same. People start to find their "new" love and interest for another job.

My solution for you: you have enough other jobs to try out.

Your solution doesn't work for everyone, because out of all the jobs there were a grand total of two that I actually enjoyed.
Right now I'm just putting up with the mess of a job that this is until they hopefully fix the glaring design flaws so I'm not fighting against the one job I have been playing since I started.

It's also incredibly rude to tell people to "find another job" if some could only play one or maybe a second job that they actually liked.
I love myself some magic users but I loathe healing, but I disagree with Black Mage's favouritism not to mention how I have been treated in ARR and to an extend to this day due to the caster environment. Red Mage is absolutely not my thing and it just doesn't bring me any sort of enjoyment nor do I even enjoy it's magicks.

[xbahax92]

Your solution doesn't work for everyone, because out of all the jobs there were a grand total of two that I actually enjoyed.
Right now I'm just putting up with the mess of a job that this is until they hopefully fix the glaring design flaws so I'm not fighting against the one job I have been playing since I started.

It's also incredibly rude to tell people to "find another job" if some could only play one or maybe a second job that they actually liked.
I love myself some magic users but I loathe healing, but I disagree with Black Mage's favouritism not to mention how I have been treated in ARR and to an extend to this day due to the caster environment. Red Mage is absolutely not my thing and it just doesn't bring me any sort of enjoyment nor do I even enjoy it's magicks.

I dont see where it is rude. It was just my opinion. Wether you agree or disagree, is up to anyone. Im not forcing them to change their mind. But just because some people dont like current Summoner, doesnt mean others dont like it either.
So, there are 2 sides, that will be upset if they decide to do something. A rollback to the old dot-class is gonna upset another group. We will have another round of complains.

[Chocobits]

Your solution doesn't work for everyone, because out of all the jobs there were a grand total of two that I actually enjoyed.
Right now I'm just putting up with the mess of a job that this is until they hopefully fix the glaring design flaws so I'm not fighting against the one job I have been playing since I started.

It's also incredibly rude to tell people to "find another job" if some could only play one or maybe a second job that they actually liked.
I love myself some magic users but I loathe healing, but I disagree with Black Mage's favouritism not to mention how I have been treated in ARR and to an extend to this day due to the caster environment. Red Mage is absolutely not my thing and it just doesn't bring me any sort of enjoyment nor do I even enjoy it's magicks.

This is just "me me me waa waa waa. Me as a vocal minority am displeased and that demands actionable results!"

Summoner isn't changing. This patch ADDRESSED the design flaws of Summoner; not created any. If you find the suggestion to change jobs rude, I suppose you would find the suggestion to find another game even ruder.

[Rolder50]

Summoner isn't changing. This patch ADDRESSED the design flaws of Summoner; not created any. If you find the suggestion to change jobs rude, I suppose you would find the suggestion to find another game even ruder.

Lmao what? You'd have to be either blind or deliberately obtuse to not see the design flaws that were created in the rework. Not to mention things that were "fixed" like ghosting are still a problem.

[Skiros]

Nobody said it was. Toxic for being toxic. Common sense. Also nice contrapoints. Or lack thereof. Very engaging and productive types of discussions you are (not) having.

This is just "me me me waa waa waa. Me as a vocal minority am displeased and that demands actionable results!"

How does one lack so much self-awareness?