New summoner is unacceptable

[seraf]

If you're only pressing 1 button you aren't even playing the Job properly. Not sure why people are even making this complaint.

[PartyBarn]

You guys are crazy. Summoner is way better now. Anyone who keeps saying "its only 1 button" is spouting pure hyperbole. It's a fraction of a fraction of its old level of complexity...which is the point. The old summoner was simply too complex for most players (and doubly so if you tried to play it on console/with a controller).

[Issaella]

You guys are crazy. Summoner is way better now. Anyone who keeps saying "its only 1 button" is spouting pure hyperbole. It's a fraction of a fraction of its old level of complexity...which is the point. The old summoner was simply too complex for most players (and doubly so if you tried to play it on console/with a controller).

The new version is just another glowy-button whack-a-mole just like BRD, DNC, and RDM. There is no resource to manage, no planning, you just hit stuff in order and change to the next phase. It actually punishes you for trying to double-weave oGCDs. Add in the pet AI having travel time and firing off AoEs that only hit 1 target unless you target the enemy that is the exact potion that it will fire correctly.

The whack-a-mole proc based gameplay is why I can't stand those jobs and why it kills me what the turned SMN into. There is no amount of experience playing it that will make it feel anything other than awful.

[NyteKitsune]

As having tried out the changes to SMN, the OP is welcome to their opinion, but its not bad, actually I like it, and if you're only using Ruin III you're playing it wrong, Most of your DPS is now coming from your summons, not Ruin 3.

As with any change people will complain, they won't take the time to read spell description, heck, most people won't read a sign on a door, why would they read something in a game? They won't re-organize their action bars, instead they will come here and complain to see how we respond

[Melorie]

As with any change people will complain, they won't take the time to read spell description, heck, most people won't read a sign on a door, why would they read something in a game? They won't re-organize their action bars, instead they will come here and complain to see how we respond

Just like no one here read that they were talking about the opener. Have some respect for people and stop assuming things, you don't know how their hot bars are organized nor if they read any of the skills, just because they dislike something doesn't mean they have not given it attention. The change was intense, of course there'll be discussion and people that dislike it.

[Skiros]

As having tried out the changes to SMN, the OP is welcome to their opinion, but its not bad, actually I like it, and if you're only using Ruin III you're playing it wrong, Most of your DPS is now coming from your summons, not Ruin 3.

As with any change people will complain, they won't take the time to read spell description, heck, most people won't read a sign on a door, why would they read something in a game? They won't re-organize their action bars, instead they will come here and complain to see how we respond

Has anyone said you're only using Ruin III? You're primarily pressing the Ruin **button** in the opener and the Gemshine **button** thereafter.

[FusiaRain]

Has anyone said you're only using Ruin III? You're primarily pressing the Ruin **button** in the opener and the Gemshine **button** thereafter.

Energy drain- Bahamut open-ruin /baha moves like death flare- fester x2 or painkiller for aoe then gem stones is the opener not just ruin lol

Then u go pheonix and repeat and use badic ruin until bahamut reactives then repeat lo

While helping healers by decress dmg with carby. Lol its not just ruin , of thats the way your doing it your playing it wrong

[Skiros]

Energy drain- Bahamut open-ruin /baha moves like death flare- fester x2 or painkiller for aoe then gem stones is the opener not just ruin lol

"primarily"

[FusiaRain]

"primarily"

That is primarily almost non of those are long cd.

Legit I been going
Energydrain-summon bahamut, deathflare-enkindle bahamut-spam the deathflare ruin until it runs out, then titan/garuda or ifirt they do damage -gemstone attacks-fester/painflare depending if its aoe or not-ruin x2 or 3 depending-phoenix-phoenixs attacks/enkindle its single ruin or aoe attack repeat gemstones and energy drain.

Legitly dont see any glows it pops out fast and its legitly a complete opener

While keeping an eye out for moves that midgating is worth it to pop carby defences

Legitly a paragraph of buttons just to open lol now it just needs after opener moves

[Skiros]

That is primarily almost non of those are long cd.

Legit I been going
Energydrain-summon bahamut, deathflare-enkindle bahamut-spam the deathflare ruin until it runs out, then titan/garuda or ifirt they do damage -gemstone attacks-fester/painflare depending if its aoe or not-ruin x2 or 3 depending-phoenix-phoenixs attacks/enkindle its single ruin or aoe attack repeat gemstones and energy drain.

Legitly dont see any glows it pops out fast and its legitly a complete opener

While keeping an eye out for moves that midgating is worth it to pop carby defences

Legitly a paragraph of buttons just to open lol now it just needs after opener moves

What did I just read