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  1. #201
    Player
    Melorie's Avatar
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    Character
    Melorie Valliere
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by NyteKitsune View Post
    As with any change people will complain, they won't take the time to read spell description, heck, most people won't read a sign on a door, why would they read something in a game? They won't re-organize their action bars, instead they will come here and complain to see how we respond
    Just like no one here read that they were talking about the opener. Have some respect for people and stop assuming things, you don't know how their hot bars are organized nor if they read any of the skills, just because they dislike something doesn't mean they have not given it attention. The change was intense, of course there'll be discussion and people that dislike it.
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  2. #202
    Player FusiaRain's Avatar
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    Nov 2021
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    Gridania
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    275
    Character
    Shoralral Shoral
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Has anyone said you're only using Ruin III? You're primarily pressing the Ruin **button** in the opener and the Gemshine **button** thereafter.
    Energy drain- Bahamut open-ruin /baha moves like death flare- fester x2 or painkiller for aoe then gem stones is the opener not just ruin lol

    Then u go pheonix and repeat and use badic ruin until bahamut reactives then repeat lo

    While helping healers by decress dmg with carby. Lol its not just ruin , of thats the way your doing it your playing it wrong
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    Last edited by FusiaRain; 12-05-2021 at 10:22 AM.

  3. #203
    Player
    Issaella's Avatar
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    Character
    Emmylou Sugarbean
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by PartyBarn View Post
    You guys are crazy. Summoner is way better now. Anyone who keeps saying "its only 1 button" is spouting pure hyperbole. It's a fraction of a fraction of its old level of complexity...which is the point. The old summoner was simply too complex for most players (and doubly so if you tried to play it on console/with a controller).
    The new version is just another glowy-button whack-a-mole just like BRD, DNC, and RDM. There is no resource to manage, no planning, you just hit stuff in order and change to the next phase. It actually punishes you for trying to double-weave oGCDs. Add in the pet AI having travel time and firing off AoEs that only hit 1 target unless you target the enemy that is the exact potion that it will fire correctly.

    The whack-a-mole proc based gameplay is why I can't stand those jobs and why it kills me what the turned SMN into. There is no amount of experience playing it that will make it feel anything other than awful.
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  4. #204
    Player
    Skiros's Avatar
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    Character
    Drake Drakon
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FusiaRain View Post
    Energy drain- Bahamut open-ruin /baha moves like death flare- fester x2 or painkiller for aoe then gem stones is the opener not just ruin lol
    "primarily"
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  5. #205
    Player
    CheshaSolttiri's Avatar
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    Jul 2017
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    Limsa Lomensa
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    41
    Character
    Chesha Solttiri
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I mained SMN since ARR in 2013 and gotta say I love the new one. I like it's simple, like dancer. I don't want it complex, honestly. Make the rotation easy and the fights (mechanics) hard.
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  6. #206
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    Blackcanary's Avatar
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    Character
    Rogue Fuki
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Only thing that needs to be sorted now for summoner is to have better looking gear. Why can't we have gear that looks like Alphinaud new gear. Summoners gear out of all the other jobs always looks bad.
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  7. #207
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    GunslingerB's Avatar
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    Dec 2021
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    Ishgard
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    16
    Character
    Edwin Imair
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 83
    Can someone show me their action bar for the new summoner. I'm a total brainlet and when I changed to Summoner to take a peak at it; I was shocked that it became a totally different class. I can't login so I don't want to use the time if I actually log in tooling things around.
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    Last edited by GunslingerB; 12-05-2021 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Further explanation XD

  8. #208
    Player
    Blackcanary's Avatar
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    Character
    Rogue Fuki
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GunslingerB View Post
    Can someone show me their action bar for the new summoner. I'm a total brainlet and when I changed to Summoner to take a peak at it; I was shocked that it became a totally different class. I can't login so I don't want to use the time if I actually log in tooling things around.
    It won't take that long to sort your bar out only took me a few minutes.
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  9. #209
    Player FusiaRain's Avatar
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    Character
    Shoralral Shoral
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    "primarily"
    That is primarily almost non of those are long cd.

    Legit I been going
    Energydrain-summon bahamut, deathflare-enkindle bahamut-spam the deathflare ruin until it runs out, then titan/garuda or ifirt they do damage -gemstone attacks-fester/painflare depending if its aoe or not-ruin x2 or 3 depending-phoenix-phoenixs attacks/enkindle its single ruin or aoe attack repeat gemstones and energy drain.

    Legitly dont see any glows it pops out fast and its legitly a complete opener

    While keeping an eye out for moves that midgating is worth it to pop carby defences

    Legitly a paragraph of buttons just to open lol now it just needs after opener moves
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    Last edited by FusiaRain; 12-05-2021 at 12:30 PM.

  10. #210
    Player
    GunslingerB's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Edwin Imair
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    It won't take that long to sort your bar out only took me a few minutes.
    Oh cool, like I said I haven't really had a chance to take a peek at it yet. If I can tool it up that quick I can take the time. I'm hell bent on the story, but I also want to fiddle with summoner a bit along the way.
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