Monk Positionals 6.0

[Navnav]

[QUOTE=ssunny2008;5722061][QUOTE=Navnav;5722008] as it would be way too complex for anyone that didn't have a star brain IQ.

So old MNK mains who main´d it at every time and have been comfortable with GL have a star brain IQ?! So in which universe does an underevolved human has something to say against the opinion of star brains?

And where is the vocal minority? All i see are the same 3-4 guys over and over again moaning about positionals. Sounds more like a minority on that side SE tries to cater for whatever reason. Those who´ve been fine with MNK´s positionals are the majority for sure.
If moving from left to the right meanwhile doing Blitz is too much to you, then you´re just not a good player. The changes are a joke. There is no depth or any challenge left on MNK. Just another braindead design to cater the left-handed.

Thats the thing though, moving left and right every gcd isnt hard, it is just annoying busy work for the sake of it. Glad they got rid of the positionals they did. Great move.

I am going report players calling others stupid over not likng positionals. That is not on, you might be mad, but keep that energy for square, they made the changes, not the players.

[Aeliott]

Perhaps because most never had any issue with doing them?

This...I don't like being too assertive on forums, but if you actually play the job when leveling it, or even just stick with it for a while if you haven't touched it in some time, it's just second nature instinct on where you need to be relative to what you're pressing. Your thought process is mainly on your OGCD timers, particularly TFC at 4 stacks, or whether you'll need to pop RoE / TN.

Also as far as I know most people were fine with just Raptor forms losing stance, I'm not sure what prompted the need for going even further.

[Kolsykol]

[QUOTE=Navnav;5722072][QUOTE=ssunny2008;5722061]

as it would be way too complex for anyone that didn't have a star brain IQ.

Thats the thing though, moving left and right every gcd isnt hard, it is just annoying busy work for the sake of it. Glad they got rid of the positionals they did. Great move.

I am going report players calling others stupid over not likng positionals. That is not on, you might be mad, but keep that energy for square, they made the changes, not the players.

Directly calling an individual stupid isn't allowed, calling people generally stupid is.

Edit: Also you're totally missing the entire point of the positionals and why people are upset they're gone, it has already been explained numerous of times...

[Navnav]

Perhaps because most never had any issue with doing them?

I didn't either, like maaaany others. The problem isn't the positionals, it was the amount, it didn't actually feel engaging. You are essentially just shuffling. I can shuffle on any job, as I do most tomes, even casters, but the difference is, it is by choice, not forced every GCD. I don't like programming, yet I got a first class honors in computer science. I think you can get my point...

[ssunny2008]

I am going report players calling others stupid over not likng positionals.

If you feel insulted because i advanced your own post, do whatever you want. I couldn´t care less.

The new MNK is a joke and far away from having some flow to play with. We got less to do and pointless 1 button spams.
What´s even the point of Celestial Revolution??? Just a "missclick-safer"? It´s a joke... the whole rework is a fat joke.
Using PB for 123 or DK / BS spam. It has no real fluent and you just stuck on one place. Why should even anyone care about the 60 potency on demolish every 18s? MNK plays really bad and boring now and ppl will get this fast enough.

[Navnav]

If you feel insulted because i advanced your own post, do whatever you want. I couldn´t care less.

The new MNK is a joke and far away from having some flow to play with. We got less to do and pointless 1 button spams.
What´s even the point of Celestial Revolution??? Just a "missclick-safer"? It´s a joke... the whole rework is a fat joke.
Using PB for 123 or DK / BS spam. It has no real fluent and you just stuck on one place. Why should even anyone care about the 60 potency on demolish every 18s? MNK plays really bad and boring now and ppl will get this fast enough.

Believe it or not, it was the best change they could have made for the job. For every monk player that leaves, another will replace them. I don't think there were many MNK players in the first place.

[Mikey_R]

Thats the thing though, moving left and right every gcd isnt hard, it is just annoying busy work for the sake of it.

If it wasn't hard, why remove it? Also, have you ever taken into account the rest of the kit in relation to the changes as well?

Dragoon will be doing more positionals and have more oGCDs to weave, yet, Dragoon is fine? The only thing Monk has over dragoon is more speed but it is going to have nothing to do in the phases between the 40 seconds of PB cooldown. TFC is still RNG based and doesn't come up as often as you might want it, but it is also all Monk has left, minus the buffs.

Dragoon has their Jumps, mirage dive and the whole Life of the Dragon phase, which comes with it's own oGCD attacks.

Again, Monk is just completely neutered and the only thing that could have kept you thinking was the positionals and how to complete them around mechanics.

[Mikey_R]

Believe it or not, it was the best change they could have made for the job. For every monk player that leaves, another will replace them. I don't think there were many MNK players in the first place.

If Monk gets one player for every 1 that leaves, then it is still in the same place it was before, however, how many of those new players will actually stick with the job long term? I doubt many will, which will cause the Monk population to decrease even further. You should never alienate your core playerbase for a job as it is these players who know what is wrong with their job and what needs to be fixed.

[ssunny2008]

Believe it or not, it was the best change they could have made for the job. For every monk player that leaves, another will replace them. I don't think there were many MNK players in the first place.

No need to believe anything. MNK is still around the same 6 buttons, but with way less stuff to do. Pressing PB sometimes to perform 123 as always or to go for the good old BS - DK - BS isn´t much to go with. Within you´ve nothing to do. No oGCD´s, no positionals, nothing.
The PB phase isn´t fluent or fun to play and the downtime even less. 123 without ANY efford behind it.
MNK plays like a worse Tank imo since any Tank rotation doesn´t feel awkward to play. A lot less ppl will play the new MNK unless it does 5k more damage than any other DPS out there.

[Navnav]

I aint even gonna lie to you guys, the monk changes have me so hyped right now i will be going on to play it. Though I will say sorry you lost something you enjoy.
I am personally very happy with the changes and I do hope they now build on how the monk is now, perhaps a couple oGCDs would be cool, but that's it. Such a glorious job now.