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    Navnav's Avatar
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    I have no problems with DRG positionals....because they make sense....the rotation makes sense.....the flow makes sense....

    Monk positionals made sense....up to 3.0....after that...they were a burden just to add complexity to the job....nothing more

    DRG or SAM aren't complex. And they still have postionals...but they don't RELY on them to make the job FUN.

    In all honesty though...I do feel for those that felt the job was fine and that they liked the postionals. I really do because you worked very hard to become the best at monk. I would be incredibly naive to believe that we didn't see this coming. Of course they didn't tell us until the VERY last moment. There's no turning back now....only forward.
    Don't bother. Most monk players on the forums seem to not understand that the problem with monk was actually it's positionals. They were a bit too full on that it required most of your thought train while playing, therefore they couln'd make overhauls to mechanics while them positionals were still around, as it would be way too complex for anyone that didn't have a star brain IQ. They made a good decision removing them, it will finally make the job accessible to much more players. It is unfortunate, but monks in the forums are essentially just an echo chamber, and i'm glad square ignored them.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    Most monk players on the forums seem to not understand that the problem with monk was actually it's positionals.
    Perhaps because most never had any issue with doing them?
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Perhaps because most never had any issue with doing them?
    This...I don't like being too assertive on forums, but if you actually play the job when leveling it, or even just stick with it for a while if you haven't touched it in some time, it's just second nature instinct on where you need to be relative to what you're pressing. Your thought process is mainly on your OGCD timers, particularly TFC at 4 stacks, or whether you'll need to pop RoE / TN.

    Also as far as I know most people were fine with just Raptor forms losing stance, I'm not sure what prompted the need for going even further.
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    Last edited by Aeliott; 12-03-2021 at 09:46 PM.

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    Navaro Reverz
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Perhaps because most never had any issue with doing them?

    I didn't either, like maaaany others. The problem isn't the positionals, it was the amount, it didn't actually feel engaging. You are essentially just shuffling. I can shuffle on any job, as I do most tomes, even casters, but the difference is, it is by choice, not forced every GCD. I don't like programming, yet I got a first class honors in computer science. I think you can get my point...
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    as it would be way too complex for anyone that didn't have a star brain IQ.
    So old MNK mains who main´d it at every time and have been comfortable with GL have a star brain IQ?! So in which universe does an underevolved human has something to say against the opinion of star brains?

    And where is the vocal minority? All i see are the same 3-4 guys over and over again moaning about positionals. Sounds more like a minority on that side SE tries to cater for whatever reason. Those who´ve been fine with MNK´s positionals are the majority for sure.
    If moving from left to the right meanwhile doing Blitz is too much to you, then you´re just not a good player. The changes are a joke. There is no depth or any challenge left on MNK. Just another braindead design to cater the left-handed.
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    Last edited by ssunny2008; 12-03-2021 at 09:40 PM.