"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[Rinhi]

if you browse r/talesfromDF

everyone that thinks this community is nothing but nice should read that place, just to see how many of those 'nice' players are super toxic

[linayar]

everyone that thinks this community is nothing but nice

What about those who think this community is nice enough?

If the community is super toxic, you wouldn't need a special place to collect bad experiences. It will just be the norm of what people expect.

[Rinhi]

What about those who think this community is nice enough?

this might come as a surprise, but I do think it's nice enough in a sense, as I think it's not a bad one but it could really use a little bit less handholding/coddling

If the community is super toxic, you wouldn't need a special place to collect bad experiences. It will just be the norm of what people expect.

lol, lmao even
you know why they had to make that place? because everything in that sub got - and would get - downvoted to oblivion and further by the 'nice' community
ffxiv is filled with YPYT drivel, filled with people enabling 0 dps healers in high lvl content, filled with players that go at your throat if you insist that one should learn their class a bit, ones that attack you for 'ruining players fun' by wall-to-walling or asking the tank/dps to use their combo and not only an uncombo'd finisher etc
of course people will make a subreddit where they can talk about their bad experiences if talking about it on the mainsub would get you shunned/attacked/harassed/downvoted

[linayar]

Because they're part of the community?? They're ffxiv players who are active in ffxiv platforms. Everyone has equal parts in representing the community.

Using you logic, no community is toxic because they can just say "no no, that person break the TOS/toxic, they're not with us". Pretty convenient I'd say.

Yes, it is pretty convenient. That's why the ToS matters for the community. It's what helps to protect the community from bad actors, though not perfectly, still better than not having it.

lol, lmao even
you know why they had to make that place? because everything in that sub got - and would get - downvoted to oblivion and further by the 'nice' community
ffxiv is filled with YPYT drivel, filled with people enabling 0 dps healers in high lvl content, filled with players that go at your throat if you insist that one should learn their class a bit, ones that attack you for 'ruining players fun' by wall-to-walling or asking the tank/dps to use their combo and not only an uncombo'd finisher etc
of course people will make a subreddit where they can talk about their bad experiences if talking about it on the mainsub would get you shunned/attacked/harassed/downvoted

Well, that's my point. People have disagreements (and that's fine for a community), and that's why the complaints of one subreddit is not as universal as some might think.

[Rinhi]

Well, that's my point. People have disagreements (and that's fine for a community), and that's why the complaints of one subreddit is not as universal as some might think.

your point would have merit if people could freely express their experiences and frustrations without being attacked by rabid horde of cultists that's the mainsub
never said the community was super toxic, anyway

[linayar]

your point would have merit if people could freely express their experiences and frustrations without being attacked by rabid horde of cultists that's the mainsub
never said the community was super toxic, anyway

So you want places where people just agree with you?

[Rinhi]

So you want places where people just agree with you?

no? how do you get that from my posts?

[LittleImp]

everyone that thinks this community is nothing but nice should read that place, just to see how many of those 'nice' players are super toxic

That subreddit is an interesting place because the toxicity comes from all angles. There's examples of toxicity in the chatlogs and stories, but there's also an insane amount of toxicity in the comments coming from the people who browse it for validation as well. It's a weird space where both genuine elitism and genuine toxic casualism are constantly on full display, and is basically a great place to see some of the worst aspects of the community in their natural habitat. A nightmare zone where you'll see phrases like "You pull it you tank it" and "Low orange parse" within 5 minutes of eachother haha.