"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[linayar]

no? how do you get that from my posts?

Then it doesn't matter if people respond negatively as long as the responses don't break Reddit's rule. As long as you don't break Reddit's rule yourself, then there's no reason to run away to a different sub.

Or if Reddit is not suitable, then head to the official forum if you haven't been banned.

[Rinhi]

yeah just allow yourself to get vilified, insulted, harassed and whatnot for daring to have a different opinion than the hivemind - or lo and behold talk about your experience in a way that doesn't fit well with what's allowed
the downvote and karma system is surely working perfectly to self-moderate those undesirables away, I agree

[linayar]

yeah just allow yourself to get vilified, insulted, harassed and whatnot for daring to have a different opinion than the hivemind - or lo and behold talk about your experience in a way that doesn't fit well with what's allowed
the downvote and karma system is surely working perfectly to self-moderate those undesirables away, I agree

I've seen insults from multiple sides of duty finder issues. If it's against Reddit's rules, then report them. Otherwise, if everyone (in Reddit at least) were to stick to one sub, it can paint a better picture of the community's views.

[Lauront]

14's "community" feels more like Tumblr personified by the day.

Yup and your recent thread here isn't doing much to dislodge that claim.

[Ryaz]

Why be aggressive at all, either passive or argumentatively? People tend to react defensively to aggression anyway, which is counter-productive to achieving any sort of understanding. If you have a problem to resolve it's possible to simply discuss it like adults and work it out. If the person you have a problem with refuses to listen, there are no rules against kicking them and if they react aggressively, the ToS actually works against them.

Basically, you can do fine in life without having to argue or being rude.

Yep, saw this in an MSQ roulette of all things last week. One of our tanks accidentally provoked Ultima and the other tank went off on him for it. Like verbal attacks, calling him trash, etc. Then the other tank responded defensively as expected and and used a curse word. They both could have that could have gotten banned despite the first guy starting it.

All over a provoke in an MSQ roulette. One of the easiest instances in the game. The rest of the group couldn't believe it.

[Rinhi]

I've seen insults from multiple sides of duty finder issues. If it's against Reddit's rules, then report them. Otherwise, if everyone (in Reddit at least) were to stick to one sub, it can paint a better picture of the community's views.

that's... normal? what does that have to do with my point, I must ask, again?
to reiterate it; the community in the main sub (and basically the game itself) is actively suppressing dissenting voices and different opinions, even different experiences, painting those that don't fit into the hivemind and expectations as bad actors, as trolls, as people that have brought it upon themselves, and for what?
so that they can call themselves a nice and friendly community, just ignore all the toxicity that happens against people deemed 'bad', it's fine to be toxic against those because they deserve it, right? happens over and over again on reddit, happens over and over again on the forums here, even (along with crying that the OF is so bad because it isn't coddling people), but hey!

just talk about those toxic experiences you've had on your mainsub! your post about your tank griefing you for no reason will surely not be filled with people that tell you you deserved it, your endgame healer that you asked nicely to use something other than cure 1 and please do dps? people will surely be on your side and not tell you to mind your own business! doesn't matter that the 15 minute dungeon took 40 minutes because of them, you should've just left lol!
crafting mentor giving out bad advice in NN and you want to make a vent post about getting kicked by them and their clique after you corrected them? deleted, only positivity allowed, you were naming and shaming and inviting harassment, even if you weren't

[Hyrist]

In my opinion, the 'active suppression' is of toxic behaviors that bring a poor representation of the the audience as a whole. Overall there is a rather wide difference between conversations held here (And other community boards) verses those held in game - to the point where I feel more like the forums, and by proxy those that flock to them, are the misrepresentation. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes not - as negative experiences are wont to be heard, even if they are in the firm minority.

I don't regular these forums as much as I used to because I've learned that my gameplay views and overall enjoyment is actually negatively impacted by the unchecked negativity and bad-faith arguments I find here. And I'm genuinely more happy. If that is a result of players actively 'suppressing dissenting voices' then I'm honestly all for it. The game won a reward based on its community behavior, and it's not the first time it's been lauded this way. Even if you disagree, enough people feel that way for it to be taken notice. Perhaps the issue with your personal experiences lie elsewhere? I find that introspection is healthy in times of misery. Sometimes being around the wrong people or frequenting the wrong places can color your perception of events as they fold out.

[Dewslam]

My favorite posts in this thread are the ones where people complain that this game's community is to soft, coddled or toxic because it doesn't welcome their posts insulting, harassing, or abusing other members of the community; usually with the unsubtle implication that it's only wrong because the community isn't coddling them, personally.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The game won a reward based on its community behavior, and it's not the first time it's been lauded this way.

You realize this means very little right? Of course the community is going to vote for itself lmao, this isn’t a surprise especially with the influx of new players.

[Rinhi]

My favorite posts in this thread are the ones where people complain that this game's community is to soft, coddled or toxic because it doesn't welcome their posts insulting, harassing, or abusing other members of the community; usually with the unsubtle implication that it's only wrong because the community isn't coddling them, personally.

if I risk an infraction because I'm telling player A that their refusal to do mechanic X is making it impossible to progress, then yes, the community is coddled

but hey, it's easy to say this from a high horse, only an 'undesirable' can have this opinion, right? only someone that behaves like that could have that opinion, right?
that I've never insulted, harassed or abused a single other player (other than myself) in the entire time I've been playing will fall on deaf ears or you'll accuse me of lying, I bet

guess I'm just a miserable git like the other poster implied, that's the only reason I could have this opinion, after all!

I don't regular these forums as much as I used to because I've learned that my gameplay views and overall enjoyment is actually negatively impacted by the unchecked negativity and bad-faith arguments I find here. And I'm genuinely more happy. If that is a result of players actively 'suppressing dissenting voices' then I'm honestly all for it. The game won a reward based on its community behavior, and it's not the first time it's been lauded this way. Even if you disagree, enough people feel that way for it to be taken notice. Perhaps the issue with your personal experiences lie elsewhere? I find that introspection is healthy in times of misery. Sometimes being around the wrong people or frequenting the wrong places can color your perception of events as they fold out.

more double standards, yay! it's totally fine to drown out any kind of negative opinion about this game because it makes me feel better!
if a forum is affecting your enjoyment of a game negatively, maybe you should be the one that should do some introspection first before telling someone else to do so, cus it's not affecting mine, nor does the state of the community or people having a different opinion than mine
I don't hang around any negative places either, quite the opposite, actually, but please don't try to allude to 'other' reasons just to try to shut down someone else, please?