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    Regarding your suggestion of an extra team to handle collabs, they can't just pull developers out of thin. Yoshi-P has talked multiple times about the difficulty of taking on new devs able to to work to the standard they need, despite wanting a bigger team. If they got more devs, they would want them working on the main game so a separate collab team would still take away from development.

    If it was made of a less skilled team if "learner devs" the resulting collabs would be of poorer quality than the rest of the game which would leave a bitter taste for players and could be considered insulting to the properties being collaborated with. Would likely result in less collabs as who wants their product to be represented by the worst content in the game.

    You keep bringing the Nier raids, but these have actually brought up a lot of push back against more collabs in online spaces. Much as I like Nier and the glams and minions from these raids I found the raids to grow boring quickly and the story quickly and in hindsight would have preferred an alliance raid series that dug further into Norvrandt's lore, especially as we're probably not going to get much of a focus on that going forward.

    Ultimately, it seems the devs have taken note of players wanting fewer collabs and more FFXIV lore-based content as in an interview with Frosty Mogborn earlier this year Yoshi-P said they are not currently moving forward on any collabs and when revealing the 6.x raid series they made a big thing about it being XIV original content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla View Post
    Regarding your suggestion of an extra team to handle collabs, they can't just pull developers out of thin. Yoshi-P has talked multiple times about the difficulty of taking on new devs able to to work to the standard they need, despite wanting a bigger team. If they got more devs, they would want them working on the main game so a separate collab team would still take away from development.

    If it was made of a less skilled team if "learner devs" the resulting collabs would be of poorer quality than the rest of the game which would leave a bitter taste for players and could be considered insulting to the properties being collaborated with. Would likely result in less collabs as who wants their product to be represented by the worst content in the game.

    You keep bringing the Nier raids, but these have actually brought up a lot of push back against more collabs in online spaces. Much as I like Nier and the glams and minions from these raids I found the raids to grow boring quickly and the story quickly and in hindsight would have preferred an alliance raid series that dug further into Norvrandt's lore, especially as we're probably not going to get much of a focus on that going forward.

    Ultimately, it seems the devs have taken note of players wanting fewer collabs and more FFXIV lore-based content as in an interview with Frosty Mogborn earlier this year Yoshi-P said they are not currently moving forward on any collabs and when revealing the 6.x raid series they made a big thing about it being XIV original content.
    but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?
    The IP being collabbed with may want.. you know.. actually benefit from it. The bare minimum is a good way to ensure nobody even wants to collab with you.
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    Last edited by Lanadra; 10-24-2021 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?

    Look, I get your obsession with wanting new glams from some other games is clouding your judgement a little bit but think about what you wrote there for a moment. First of all, all that Unholychinchilla wrote is information taken from various interviews, live letters, etc. It's not made up and the information online is easily accessible for yourself. There's more to just hiring a team to make collab content. It's not about "haters" being more vocal. It's simply the way things are and it's not just for the FFXIV team. Look at Smash Bros. Took six years for Sakurai to finally get Sora in the game and one can only imagine the legal hell he had to go through to make it happen.

    Btw, you haven't mentioned which collab you wanted, just that the game should have many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    More collabs would be really nice. I want collabs with Doom, Duke Nukem, Flight Simulator, Desert Strike, Command & Conquer aaaaand Turrican!



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