why FF14 don't do more collabs?

[Unholychinchilla]

Regarding your suggestion of an extra team to handle collabs, they can't just pull developers out of thin. Yoshi-P has talked multiple times about the difficulty of taking on new devs able to to work to the standard they need, despite wanting a bigger team. If they got more devs, they would want them working on the main game so a separate collab team would still take away from development.

If it was made of a less skilled team if "learner devs" the resulting collabs would be of poorer quality than the rest of the game which would leave a bitter taste for players and could be considered insulting to the properties being collaborated with. Would likely result in less collabs as who wants their product to be represented by the worst content in the game.

You keep bringing the Nier raids, but these have actually brought up a lot of push back against more collabs in online spaces. Much as I like Nier and the glams and minions from these raids I found the raids to grow boring quickly and the story quickly and in hindsight would have preferred an alliance raid series that dug further into Norvrandt's lore, especially as we're probably not going to get much of a focus on that going forward.

Ultimately, it seems the devs have taken note of players wanting fewer collabs and more FFXIV lore-based content as in an interview with Frosty Mogborn earlier this year Yoshi-P said they are not currently moving forward on any collabs and when revealing the 6.x raid series they made a big thing about it being XIV original content.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Regarding your suggestion of an extra team to handle collabs, they can't just pull developers out of thin. Yoshi-P has talked multiple times about the difficulty of taking on new devs able to to work to the standard they need, despite wanting a bigger team. If they got more devs, they would want them working on the main game so a separate collab team would still take away from development.

If it was made of a less skilled team if "learner devs" the resulting collabs would be of poorer quality than the rest of the game which would leave a bitter taste for players and could be considered insulting to the properties being collaborated with. Would likely result in less collabs as who wants their product to be represented by the worst content in the game.

You keep bringing the Nier raids, but these have actually brought up a lot of push back against more collabs in online spaces. Much as I like Nier and the glams and minions from these raids I found the raids to grow boring quickly and the story quickly and in hindsight would have preferred an alliance raid series that dug further into Norvrandt's lore, especially as we're probably not going to get much of a focus on that going forward.

Ultimately, it seems the devs have taken note of players wanting fewer collabs and more FFXIV lore-based content as in an interview with Frosty Mogborn earlier this year Yoshi-P said they are not currently moving forward on any collabs and when revealing the 6.x raid series they made a big thing about it being XIV original content.

but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?

[Lanadra]

but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?

The IP being collabbed with may want.. you know.. actually benefit from it. The bare minimum is a good way to ensure nobody even wants to collab with you.

[SenorPatty]

but its a good place to make new devs get the job and be over time to the lvl. as all a collab need is some nice glams and a simple quest like the one in DQ event. taken note of players wanting fewer collab, where the note was taken from? was there an in game vote? or some haters was just the more vocal ones?

Look, I get your obsession with wanting new glams from some other games is clouding your judgement a little bit but think about what you wrote there for a moment. First of all, all that Unholychinchilla wrote is information taken from various interviews, live letters, etc. It's not made up and the information online is easily accessible for yourself. There's more to just hiring a team to make collab content. It's not about "haters" being more vocal. It's simply the way things are and it's not just for the FFXIV team. Look at Smash Bros. Took six years for Sakurai to finally get Sora in the game and one can only imagine the legal hell he had to go through to make it happen.

Btw, you haven't mentioned which collab you wanted, just that the game should have many.

[Larirawiel]

More collabs would be really nice. I want collabs with Doom, Duke Nukem, Flight Simulator, Desert Strike, Command & Conquer aaaaand Turrican!



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[Zanarkand-Ronso]

They just simply haven't pushed for another Collab yet.
Plus also, from what (little) I understand there is alot of red tape and money that has to be negotiated, because you need permissions and then you gotta pay for that legal permission. Plus then I think you have to pay even more for the VA if its going to be voiced and whatnot.

Or why not just do collabs with their own IPs, well maybe at the time they didnt think it would be a good idea to put X things from something like....IDK "The Bouncer" into FFXIV but could do it later maybe. I think the other thing is these collabs are also used as promos. So its just case by case with different circumstances.
Those are just my thoughts

[Marxam]

They just simply haven't pushed for another Collab yet.
Plus also, from what (little) I understand there is alot of red tape and money that has to be negotiated, because you need permissions and then you gotta pay for that legal permission. Plus then I think you have to pay even more for the VA if its going to be voiced and whatnot.

Or why not just do collabs with their own IPs, well maybe at the time they didnt think it would be a good idea to put X things from something like....IDK "The Bouncer" into FFXIV but could do it later maybe. I think the other thing is these collabs are also used as promos. So its just case by case with different circumstances.
Those are just my thoughts

Its all red tape tbh. One of the reasons why we probably won't see another KH-like crossover in the future given how tumultuous relationships can become under new management. PS1-PS2 era was like the probably the golden era of crossovers. MvC, Capcom vs SNK, Parasite Eve 2, Dante in SMT, Ape Escape in MGS3, Pizza Hut and Fila in Crazy Taxi, and the list goes on. Companies now are more aware of the money potential rather than back then when they just wanted to get their foot in the door of newly emerging market.

I do agree that crossovers within company IP's should be "easier" but even that has red tape around it. Still hoping one day I get to wear Claude's outfit from SO2.

[Espon]

I prefer things to just be mostly Final Fantasy. I didn't mind things like the Yokai Watch, Monster Hunter World, and Dragon Quest collabs because those were just small events, but I wasn't too fond of the Nier raid series. Some of the bosses were neat and I liked the music, but I really couldn't care for the story or the characters.

[_Pigzig]

collabs
the last cry of the dying gacha

[Lanadra]

collabs
the last cry of the dying gacha

It is if they're constantly doing them.. because then it's pretty clear that it's the only thing they can think of to keep people from leaving. Typically in a 'healthy' gacha game a collab will happen maybe once a year.