New Summoner looks really nice, but...

[Sequora]

And people are allowed to criticize this design choice.



Where there is a succession of choices, there is also an optimal way to take them. Especially with a rigid encounter design. The variety is a facade, but it looks like it's effective.


Please take time to read or re-read posts in this thread with some attention and you will notice that no one was/is against a rework.

There’s no facade. There will be encounters where it will be primal to do titan ifrit Garuda and you might have to change the order.

Current summoner is a really simple priority system.

I cannot wait to not have to track dot timers.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

There’s no facade. There will be encounters where it will be primal to do titan ifrit Garuda and you might have to change the order.

Current summoner is a really simple priority system.

I cannot wait to not have to track dot timers.

What I love is some of these ppl who criticize the new smn act like today smn is so deep and complex when it can be boiled down to a simple priority system, dotting with tri-d resets or hardcasting and know when you use certain things to avoid ghosting. Avoiding ghosting doesn't make the job complex it's the result of a broken pet system that will never be fixed. If you really want a complex caster job in hard content play BLM. It has more going on with it even than todays smn. I get it thought ppl scared since their job is being changed there a chance they may not like it. I have been an smn main since SB and I love the job with all my heart, I even was worried about the rework leading up to the last LL but afterwards I sigh in relief bc I thought what they show was amazing. The media tour has only made me want to play it even more after hearing larry take on it. Even ppl like mr happy who never played smn wants to play this smn. I think it will be just fine. I just don't understand judging or criticizing a job when they haven't even played it yet. :-/

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

There’s no facade. There will be encounters where it will be primal to do titan ifrit Garuda and you might have to change the order.

Current summoner is a really simple priority system.

I cannot wait to not have to track dot timers.

Couldn't agree more. The order you use them will change drastically depending on how movement heavy the encounter is, which, so far, Endwalker appears to have an extreme amount of.

You'll lose dps if you interrupt any of the 2 Ifrit ruby spells. You'll lose dps if the boss/dungeon trash moves out of Garuda's Slipstream or if you have to interrupt Slipstream's long cast time. You only have 1 swiftcast per minute and that's liking going to be for Garuda's 3s cast time and 3.5 second recast Slipstream or one of Ifrit's 2 ruby spells. And if Slipstream's recast time remains 3.5 seconds then swiftcasting it will have the benefit of giving you 3.5 seconds of movement (which gods forbid you'll likely want for in Endwalker).

I don't need to move for the next 4.5 GCDs, Ifrit. You won't be able to use Ifrit (or Slipstream) optimally during high bouts of movement. Or if swiftcast is on CD.
I need mobility and Bahamut and Phoenix are on CD, Titan and/or swiftcast Slipstream Garuda.
Raids buffs are up, Titan. If potencies and cast times remain unchanged.

[rewd]

There’s no facade. There will be encounters where it will be primal to do titan ifrit Garuda and you might have to change the order.

Current summoner is a really simple priority system.

I cannot wait to not have to track dot timers.

There is a whole section of my other comment where I talk about there being an optimal way to take choices, resulting in you doing the same thing over and over again (which was a point in Larry's video). Why did you choose to ignore it?