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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    That's a non issue. If they can make ranged attacks on tank/dps not break combos, so then can for heals. They can also handle this with a proc/buff system.
    Yet from their descriptions they haven't applied it to, say, Holy Shock, Clemency, mounting, any of the AoEs, or literally any new action aside from Unmend, Tomahawk, Shield Lob, Lightning Shot, Enpi, Piercing Talon, and Throwing Daggers, and we're still in a place where it is apparently impossible even, for PLD and DRK to have accelerated spells without wastefully carrying Spell Speed.

    If they can manage that, great -- the issue is then gone -- but it's no given.

    Moreover, it wasn't the premise against which 1-1-1 spam was being compared in what I was replying to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    Rdm/blm have procs then, so they already can do that.
    ...Of the two, only RDM has a combo, across Riposte/Zwerch/Redouble, and it IS cancelled by any intervening GCD action. It's not even among the jobs being thus changed to allow for intervening ranged casts in EW.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    And I hope we do skip over it; unfortunately the first hurdle we need to overcome is the preposterous belief the designers have that more than one downtime button for healers requires a degree in aerospace engineering to possibly understand.
    Agreed.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 10-19-2021 at 07:34 PM.

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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Yet from their descriptions they haven't applied it to, say, Holy Shock, Clemency, mounting, any of the AoEs, or literally any new action aside from Unmend, Tomahawk, Shield Lob, Lightning Shot, Enpi, Piercing Talon, and Throwing Daggers, and we're still in a place where it is apparently impossible even, for PLD and DRK to have accelerated spells without wastefully carrying Spell Speed.

    If they can manage that, great -- the issue is then gone -- but it's no given.

    Moreover, it wasn't the premise against which 1-1-1 spam was being compared in what I was replying to.
    Rdm/blm have procs then, so they already can do that.

    and yes, not the main point ; but we have 4 healers. A 1-2-3 combo can be an option for at least one of them.
    Sure on it's own it's not enough, but at least it's something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    ...Of the two, only RDM has a combo, across Riposte/Zwerch/Redouble, and it IS cancelled by any intervening GCD action. It's not even among the jobs being thus changed to allow for intervening ranged casts in EW.
    These are "physical/real" combo

    RDM has two proc based magical combo with thunder -> fire and aero -> stone then a breakable magical combo with holy/flare -> scorch
    BLM has a proc based magical combo with fire -> fire 3 ad a pseudo self-combo with thunder proc on dot

    These systems can be aplied to healers for damage/dots/heal.
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    Last edited by Calysto; 10-19-2021 at 09:41 PM.