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  1. #61
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    But anyway ignoring the elfy post due to having too much times on their hands

    Scholar is legit going to be fine, it's still strong and there is loads of cool tricks u can do with its HP bonus buff it can give out, for example

    Scholar can legit buff TBN
    Scholar can buff divine intervention
    That's 10% hp boost is wow I cannot wait to try some quirky tricks with it

    So anything which scales of "max" hp well the scholar hp buffs makes it way more better like damn

    I wonder if thrill of battle + new sch hp buff with shake it off cause that's a big shield on a warrior if thrill+new sch hp buff stacks
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  2. #62
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    I don't believe Scholar's healing kit being weak has ever really been the issue with Scholar; it's healing kit is incredibly powerful and nothing is really changing about that in Endwalker. Being "fine" and being "fun" are two vastly different things, though.
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  3. #63
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    Truen's Avatar
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    Brunox Sky
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    But anyway ignoring the elfy post due to having too much times on their hands

    Scholar is legit going to be fine, it's still strong and there is loads of cool tricks u can do with its HP bonus buff it can give out, for example

    Scholar can legit buff TBN
    Scholar can buff divine intervention
    That's 10% hp boost is wow I cannot wait to try some quirky tricks with it

    So anything which scales of "max" hp well the scholar hp buffs makes it way more better like damn

    I wonder if thrill of battle + new sch hp buff with shake it off cause that's a big shield on a warrior if thrill+new sch hp buff stacks
    I couldn't disagree more. SCH looks like a boring mess with a situational speed burst. No one is complaining about the SCH heal kit; it's the spamming on "broil" we HATE so damn much.
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  4. #64
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    Brunox Sky
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I don't believe Scholar's healing kit being weak has ever really been the issue with Scholar; it's healing kit is incredibly powerful and nothing is really changing about that in Endwalker. Being "fine" and being "fun" are two vastly different things, though.


    Exactly, that is what we call a strawman defense.
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  5. #65
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    But ain't u already like "white knighting" a defence against it, kinda sad that u kinda have a list for it ....like who does that xD? U have wayyy to much free time on Ur hands
    The reason I have a list is because I'm constantly having to correct folks like you who don't know any better. At this point you seem like a troll and are just another name on the ignore list.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #66
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Sch will be one of the best jobs for midigation, but thats also an issue with it, its not a sought after quality for a job, especially when its overall kit is just too boring. Sch is going to be like early ffxiv Pld, had decent utility and midigation but very boring and very low dps that War and later Drk were the usual picks (pretty much just took Pld for HG cheesing or stunlocking adds.)
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  7. #67
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    MellowMink's Avatar
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    Mello Minkus
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Scholar has plenty of healing resources but with the fewest amount of DPS options; attacking becomes extremely limited and boring pretty quickly, and I was further offended when Square Enix later lowered Energy Drain's potency in a stated attempt to get players to only use that for regaining MP rather than it being another attack option. Scholar already had so few attack options, so making that change made things even worse.
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  8. #68
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    Scholar has plenty of healing resources but with the fewest amount of DPS options; attacking becomes extremely limited and boring pretty quickly, and I was further offended when Square Enix later lowered Energy Drain's potency in a stated attempt to get players to only use that for regaining MP rather than it being another attack option. Scholar already had so few attack options, so making that change made things even worse.
    They want Energy Drain to be your resource dump for unneeded stacks, not the primary way to spend your stacks. While they're never going to succeed at that with how important DPS is in this game, it's still rather shocking they're allowing us to keep it. Fortunately now that you have the Broil cast time you'll be able to use Fey Union far easier, which I do believe will make up for that issue, you don't need healing now? Pop Fey union for a few ticks here and there and don't use the Aetherflow to heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

  9. #69
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    They want Energy Drain to be your resource dump for unneeded stacks, not the primary way to spend your stacks. While they're never going to succeed at that with how important DPS is in this game, it's still rather shocking they're allowing us to keep it. Fortunately now that you have the Broil cast time you'll be able to use Fey Union far easier, which I do believe will make up for that issue, you don't need healing now? Pop Fey union for a few ticks here and there and don't use the Aetherflow to heal.
    And you can make Fey Union last longer by burning your stacks into Energy Drain which gives 30 Faerie Gauge.
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  10. #70
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    ZaqueXIII's Avatar
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    Zaque Xiii
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 100
    More thoughts on scholar.

    Sage and whm are very similar theorhetically from the sound. They can build up to a damage ability by using their resources and additionally they have many abilities that allow them to damage and heal simultaneously with little in the way of boosting party damage(selfish dps wise).

    However when compairing scholar and astro there is one part where scholar falls short. Scholar lacks a regularly engaing support utility. This is not to say scholar should get astro buffs but just that perhaps a mechanic where you can regularly(every 30 seconds or so) apply a single target buff might help the job feel less spammy and more engaing for those who play it. Like a small increase to direct or crit hits which could be applied to single targets giving it something to do outside of broil spam. Or to prevent a samey feeling it could be a targeted debuff, these dont have to be long either even like 5-6 seconds. And maybe *cough* it could be spread by an ability like bane along with our DOT to make it useful for dungeons too * cough*
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    Last edited by ZaqueXIII; 10-20-2021 at 08:41 AM. Reason: More thoughts tacked onto end

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