"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[Caurcas]

Stop trying to justify playing poorly. Pull to the wall, do your job.

[Cygnia]

Going to avoid engaging with what ought to be the case for party etiquette, simply chiming in to mention there's some rough cusp levels post 50 with regards to item level shooting up from 148 to 270 and so on that might leave some blameless players understandably suffering as the 'weak link' in the group despite the scaled down stats. Hopefully the upcoming stat squish will smooth out the gulf.

[Shurrikhan]

OK, but that is still not "the way the devs intended" and just your personal way of dealing with tanking.

^ And solely by no longer playing a multiplayer game as a multiplayer game, at that...

I guess what I was getting at with that "intended" line probably should have been phrased more as "not wrong." It is not wrong to play the dungeon one pull at a time, the way the AI parties flatout necessitate, and it is absolutely not worthy of rudeness or abuse. I think we can all agree on that.

By that warrant, though, neither is it wrong for the other 3+ people in your party not to wish to have their time wasted according to your playstyle preference. Each preference is equally reasonable and equally invasive, so why not simply let the majority decide?

[Omedon]

The healer is the one with an issue becuase your single pulls mean we are stuck using one skill the entire run because you take barely any damage worth healing. So they get a very very boring run thanks to your pacing.
If you are content going at slow npc speed, stick to trust honestly. Healers should not be rude about it but it wouldnt kill you to double pull so the healer is not wanting to shoot themselves.

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!

1) No healer wants to be bored out of their mind in a slow roulette where they're spamming one button over and over again, without doing their primary job function (as it's not needed). You are giving no one a "free ride" or a "gift". Get over that mindset, it makes you come off incredibly egotistical.

2) Do HoH. No one cares about pull sizes in a place with no structure to it beyond "kill enough stuff to pop the portal open to the next floor". Do not inflict yourself on DF queues if you refuse to adhere to the expectation of double/big pulls past level 55.

[LittleImp]

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

Fortunately, virtually no-one in this game shares your contrived personal standards for what a good tank is.

2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!

It's sad that you choose this path instead of simply learning to work as a team-member and play the game at a quasi-functional level. It literally only takes a handful of button inputs; it's just not worth handicapping yourself this hard over minor emotional quibbles.

[_Pigzig]

Healies getting bored? Time for a bio break

[aveyond-dreams]

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

I have levelled every healer multiple times across various characters and the absolute last thing in the world I want to be is "bored" in a dungeon and only spamming the same 3 damage spells over and over again. The price of your "free" ride is a run that takes 30 or 40 minutes instead of 15.

"Most stressful role." Please.

[Kolaina]

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

If I’m bored, I’m not having fun. In this case / example, i am not being engaged enough. While you should make it easier on your healer, you also shouldn’t be putting your healer to sleep.
How to really treat your healer; decent sized pulls (more than a pack at a time), mitigate, don’t step in the bad, know the tank busters and use your big cool downs on those specifically, and don’t act like you’re the boss. Do these things and you’ll have a happy healer.
However. If you pull small, waste time, get hit by obvious telegraphed ales and busters, i will not enjoy myself.
Why is it, we are in here, as tanks, trying so hard to justify small pulls. If you can’t handle it, be a dps. Let people who want to tank, and their healers handle the pace of the dungeons.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!

I understand that you do not have the option at 60, so I sympathise there.

But no a bored healer is not a great compliment if I am bored because you do not present me with anything to do. Healers enjoy healing, arguments over how much we should dps aside! We WANT something to do, be it heal or dps. And one pack pulls is not giving us anything engaging to participate in at all, we don't need to heal much at all and the dps is lacklustre because there are so few mobs. It means we have a very boring time and if you end up dead because I stopped even paying attention don't be shocked. It's not out of malice, its that the dungeon is so NOT engaging that I am probably watching youtube on my second monitor.

I am not looking for a "free" ride, I am here to do content not have myself be slowly walked through the dungeon by a tank at snails pace. It is nice you don't want to stress your healer, checking with them first before pulling larger is a simple courtesy I know many healers appreciate! But the way you play is letting YOU enjoy yourself at your healers expense, give us something to do. Take some damage so I actually have to use something other than malefic! If I myself am tanking and I see a sprout healer I will often double check they are happy with larger pulls, sometimes I forget and if its a wipe I apologise for overwhelming them and adjust accordingly, often times they want to try again and it is great to see! You play your role because you enjoy what it entails no? Healing is a healers bread and butter, don't take it from us! We have nothing else to do beyond spam the same button the whole time otherwise..