"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[Kolaina]

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

If I’m bored, I’m not having fun. In this case / example, i am not being engaged enough. While you should make it easier on your healer, you also shouldn’t be putting your healer to sleep.
How to really treat your healer; decent sized pulls (more than a pack at a time), mitigate, don’t step in the bad, know the tank busters and use your big cool downs on those specifically, and don’t act like you’re the boss. Do these things and you’ll have a happy healer.
However. If you pull small, waste time, get hit by obvious telegraphed ales and busters, i will not enjoy myself.
Why is it, we are in here, as tanks, trying so hard to justify small pulls. If you can’t handle it, be a dps. Let people who want to tank, and their healers handle the pace of the dungeons.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Two things:

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!

I understand that you do not have the option at 60, so I sympathise there.

But no a bored healer is not a great compliment if I am bored because you do not present me with anything to do. Healers enjoy healing, arguments over how much we should dps aside! We WANT something to do, be it heal or dps. And one pack pulls is not giving us anything engaging to participate in at all, we don't need to heal much at all and the dps is lacklustre because there are so few mobs. It means we have a very boring time and if you end up dead because I stopped even paying attention don't be shocked. It's not out of malice, its that the dungeon is so NOT engaging that I am probably watching youtube on my second monitor.

I am not looking for a "free" ride, I am here to do content not have myself be slowly walked through the dungeon by a tank at snails pace. It is nice you don't want to stress your healer, checking with them first before pulling larger is a simple courtesy I know many healers appreciate! But the way you play is letting YOU enjoy yourself at your healers expense, give us something to do. Take some damage so I actually have to use something other than malefic! If I myself am tanking and I see a sprout healer I will often double check they are happy with larger pulls, sometimes I forget and if its a wipe I apologise for overwhelming them and adjust accordingly, often times they want to try again and it is great to see! You play your role because you enjoy what it entails no? Healing is a healers bread and butter, don't take it from us! We have nothing else to do beyond spam the same button the whole time otherwise..

[HappyHubris]

1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

I think this guy is trolling us.

If you're not, you're being very mean to your healers by giving them nothing to do. You're confusing "lack of mistakes" with "lack of activity." Not standing in the fire? Maybe good for your healer. Not dropping below 90% HP? Horribly boring.

Stick to the bots or play games that are tuned for one pull at a time.

[Caurcas]

Stop trying to justify playing poorly. Pull to the wall, do your job.

[Cygnia]

Going to avoid engaging with what ought to be the case for party etiquette, simply chiming in to mention there's some rough cusp levels post 50 with regards to item level shooting up from 148 to 270 and so on that might leave some blameless players understandably suffering as the 'weak link' in the group despite the scaled down stats. Hopefully the upcoming stat squish will smooth out the gulf.

[_Pigzig]

Healies getting bored? Time for a bio break

[Rinhi]

if the rest of the party wasn't okay with attempting another big pull, they probably would've said something

[Xaruko_Nexume]

OP are you on Crystal? I would be honored for you to tank a dungeon for me and heal you. I am tired of dong content like it is a Japanese Super Mario Bros. level where I might run out of time and die.

[Aiscence]

As nightshade said above me, do one dungeon post 50 and you've done them all, worse case you pull 2 groups and then you see.
And I don't understand how tanks feel like their job is difficult or pulling more is anything different than pulling one, let me describe both gameplay:
1 pack: Run to the pack -> press a CD or two and aoe -> keep a cd rolling
2 packs: Run to the pack -> aoe -> go to the next one -> press a CD and aoe -> keep defensive cd rolling.
And as unbelievable as it looks, 3 packs is the same! Nothing you do as a tank outside of pressing a cooldown actually affects anything.

Then yeah, your healers and dps must actually press buttons and learn what they do, elementary knowledge is hard, like prime numbers as we see in ridorana.

If you were seeing someone doing a 100M sprint by walking instead of running because "it's more comfortable", you'd wonder what kind of clown it is and that it's not for them. Here, we have the same case: the game is made for multipulls but you just do single target pull because you don't want to put any effort and then you complain when people say something about it with a "they are toxic".

You won't learn unless you actually do it, same for healers, and if you fail, it means you need to learn because you are not up to par and not cower and only go for single pull because "it's scary someone died in a videogame and we lost 60 sec", which is still less than doing single target pulls. You learnt million of things in your life, that's just another one, you don't have to put less effort in it because it's an "online game", that's just selfish for the others.

[Aiscence]

You can do some dungeons like anti tower or matoya in like less than 15 min nowadays, and god bless I sometimes forgot I'm a healer even with big pulls, there's nothing to heal