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  1. #21
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    The fairy weaves commands in between Embrace casts which are 3s when the fairy is stationary. This is the main reason why it takes so long to execute chain commands instantly. It can execute only one command between embrace casts. If a player commands the fairy to execute WD, FI, and Fey Union, they will have the Fey Union ticking after 7-9 seconds delay. Add Fey Blessing before Fey Union and the total amount of time will be 12s for all actions to be executed. The fairy is basically a 1GCD-1oGCD per 3s turret. It functions only when it's not moving, when it's moving it can't do anything. It can't weave more than one command per 3s and it can't clip its GCD Embrace in order to weave a command even if there is no target to cast Embrace on.

    In raids, the fairy can be left to sit stationary in the middle and it will be healing every 3s while unless you have to move it. So that's 2k Healing potency per minute, 1/2 of what Sage has on 2.5 GCD without Soteria. The fairy could possibly get buffed because it can't match Sage at all. It can only reach up to 2510 potency if we add Fey Union and but that's only true if we don't include the usage of Dissipation. Seraph is on 2 min cooldown and it is not really something a Scholar would press in order to sustain the MT. But in the perfect scenario, Seraph would add approximately 1200 ST actual healing potency increase to the normal Embrace for the time it has been summoned. Seraph is actually a really strong oGCD. The strongest in the game. It basically heals for 1900 ST over the 22-23 secs that it is summoned and it provides additional 800 AoE healing potency distributed between 2 casts as half heal and half shield. Its usage is just not very practical. Not only because the ST healing is untargetable but also because the oGCD has 2 min CD. It would have been so much better if Seraph was something that you could constantly switch to when you need it and turn it off when you don't need it instead of it being locked behind a 2min cooldown. There should have been some resource management involving Seraph for better gameplay. Hopefully, they will change something in EW.
    All of this "perfect scenario" doesn't mean much when the fairy doesn't even start healing until a target is at 80% or lower. So yes, you absolutely can go long stretches where the fairy doesn't heal at all.

    Especially when pre-pull is where you're going to have the most shields up.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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  2. #22
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    SillyCrow's Avatar
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    M'yahrah Raha
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Here's my two cents on how to fix the fairy issues:

    Fairy becomes an origin point for fairy abilities and no more. The actual casting is done by the SCH. The fairy will still cast Embrace or Seraphic Veil as she does currently. I think this should prevent the weird issues of pet abilities being wasted. Regardless of the fairy's Seraph state or not.

    Going out of range of your fairy causes her to teleport to your location instead, in heel mode. I think this would be a nice quality of life change and there's little reason not to do this unless you just want to annoy the player.

    Summon fairy becomes instant cast, but is still considered a GCD. I think some people might argue this is unfair to other healers, but SCH's main healing tools are oGCDs powered by Aetherflow, which is likely to be on cooldown and you lose all of them on death anyway. Not to mention the MP and fairy gauge. We have Dissipation to recover Aetherflow but to use it, we need the fairy to be summoned (since it sacrifices the fairy for 30 seconds). The point is having the fairy faster let SCH recover faster from a death, at least to state where we can pull off some emergency healing. Also remember that for GCD healing we have to weave Emergency Tactics.
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  3. #23
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    Roeshel's Avatar
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    yes you have no control over who it embraces or when it decides to embrace. embrace isn't as strong people think it is. back in the day when had control over it. yes embrace was really strong. bur new system your very lucky and rng really loves your scholar or it pull of its heals when people need it the most.

    people trying compare medica II to whispering dawn watch has 60 second cooldown. and medica II does not not to mention medica II first heal can crit, I have not once seen whispering dawn crit. when you put all these things into account the 60 second cooldown. embrace jank. pet jank. yes it needs be stronger. its like look askin have scholar made better. if your scholar main then you should want this too. the lack of meaty heals is what is major issue lack of fun dps opinions for. scholar.

    Sages gonna completely totally destroy scholar as far as parsing. hell they heal from there damage. while adding large amounts of utility and shields how are you even gonna hold up. people already saying "oh crap its a scholar" every-time you run 4 man or 8 man dungeon cause unless your A/S tier healer 100% top of your game and putting twice if not more effort in your job. its gonna suck sorry people its the truth. scholar is unforgiving as hell
    What you are asking for is the ability to have unmatched overhealing potential on oGCD which defeats the whole purpose of oGCD healing. Scholar's healing is one of the best in the game because the heals are distributed between many abilities. That offers players the chance to heal just what they need to heal, instead of overhealing.

    If someone is playing WHM, it is logically better to overheal with Medica II than to use Cure III simply because Cure III uses more mana and it is on GCD just like Medica II. Even if it didn't use more mana like Medica, choosing to lose 400 cure potency over saving 300 MP is not really a choice. What are you going to do with that saved MP? It would have been different if MP was actually an extremely valuable resource. Only when it comes to using Lilies does WHM has some choice to make. They can either heal 700 in ST or 300 in AoE every 30s stacking up to 3 times.

    Scholar has the highest depth of gameplay when it comes to healing because it has a lot of different ways to heal damage. The job has 3 oGCDs that heal approximately 600 AoE - Sacred Soil, Recitation+Indom, Whispering Dawn. SCH you have actual choices to make. With AST you have only cards to consider, oGCD healing is used on CD because it is free and it costs nothing. If Scholar uses Lustrate and Excog, they won't be able to use Sacred soil or Indom until Aetherflow becomes available again unless they use Dissipation which comes at a relatively high cost. Seraph becomes unavailable for 30s, Embrace is no longer healing and you are losing access to all of the fairy commands.

    In Endwalker Sage is going to destroy every other healer. And unless AST's damage is stronger than that of Scholar, Scholar is also going to end up being favoured over AST in raids because they have stronger oGCD healing and a much better field action for mitigation. Also, having a fairy healing for 1/2 of Cardia is still better than nothing. Both AST and WHM lack any means to do what SGE and SCH are doing. They have ST oGCDs which SGE and SCH also have. Sage even has a cubic barrier on 120s cooldown which doesn't even consume a resource. Everyone has DPS neutral weaving potential. Playing optimally while healing is plausible for every job now, not only AST.

    The only reason why people would be saying "oh crap its a scholar" if that is even true is that Scholar's method of healing is different from that of a regen healer and if someone plays Scholar like a WHM and mainly relying on GCD to heal, they are going to underperform greatly in terms of HPS and DPS.
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  4. #24
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Quit the hyperbole. After the pet tax Embrase is equal to a 100 potency heal every 5 seconds or so (3 sec recast + whenever the fairy decides to actually cast it.)

    It adds up, but lets not pretend it's a lot.
    I dunno, I'd say (given no dropped casts) TWO THOUSAND potency per minute is a lot. You could even drop a lot of casts and it'd still be a lot. It adds up, let's pretend that's a lot. And remember, in past expansions it was even stronger.

    Sure, it'd get a lot of utility back if you could manually target it again. I'm not against that. But it's not a *weak* heal potency-wise. Especially considering that it's entirely free. Here we go again with dramatic fainting couch Scholar "2k potency per minute feels so weak". It's not weak. It's clunky. There's a difference.
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    Last edited by Semirhage; 10-01-2021 at 12:12 AM.

  5. #25
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Lazy "fix" :
    -E(r)OS : ogcd ; the pixie has the hots for a party member and only heal them.
    -SoLo~NE : ogcd ; the pixie heart is broken and she send her love to whoever want it.

    Just like a sl*tty sage on a 5s CD
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  6. #26
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    we should be able to summon both fairies and embrace like theres no tomorrow xD

    they should make eos and selene different again
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  7. #27
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    Kimora Stryder
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    we should be able to summon both fairies and embrace like theres no tomorrow xD

    they should make eos and selene different again
    There is only one fairy, and her name is Lily. Eos and Selene are(were) stances for Lily, like Diurnal and Nocturnal sects.
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  8. #28
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    My quick napkin 'fix' for the whole Seraph/Gauge mess.

    Summon Seraph changed to cost 10 gauge with a further 5 gauge being drained every 3 seconds, trigging causes the fairy to immediately cast any queued ability before switching.
    Consolation changed to cost 30 gauge

    Aetherpact changed to a 1 minute cool down that causes all embraces to be cast on the target for 20 seconds irrespective of HP.

    /shrug
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  9. #29
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I dunno, I'd say (given no dropped casts) TWO THOUSAND potency per minute is a lot. You could even drop a lot of casts and it'd still be a lot. It adds up, let's pretend that's a lot. And remember, in past expansions it was even stronger.
    1) Again, you're talking about a perfect scenario where the fairy is casting 100% embrace, 100% of the time and that simply isn't the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Sure, it'd get a lot of utility back if you could manually target it again. I'm not against that. But it's not a *weak* heal potency-wise. . . It's not weak. It's clunky. There's a difference.
    It IS weak. It just adds up over time. Heal by a thousand micro heals. 100 potency is weak. Period.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  10. #30
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    "Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1 (no longer has an Aetherflow gauge cost, just a very short cooldown that you can use every 30 seconds"

    So... is there one or not ?
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