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  1. 10-01-2021 12:09 AM #1
    Semirhage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Quit the hyperbole. After the pet tax Embrase is equal to a 100 potency heal every 5 seconds or so (3 sec recast + whenever the fairy decides to actually cast it.)

    It adds up, but lets not pretend it's a lot.
    I dunno, I'd say (given no dropped casts) TWO THOUSAND potency per minute is a lot. You could even drop a lot of casts and it'd still be a lot. It adds up, let's pretend that's a lot. And remember, in past expansions it was even stronger.

    Sure, it'd get a lot of utility back if you could manually target it again. I'm not against that. But it's not a *weak* heal potency-wise. Especially considering that it's entirely free. Here we go again with dramatic fainting couch Scholar "2k potency per minute feels so weak". It's not weak. It's clunky. There's a difference.
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  2. 10-01-2021 07:49 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I dunno, I'd say (given no dropped casts) TWO THOUSAND potency per minute is a lot. You could even drop a lot of casts and it'd still be a lot. It adds up, let's pretend that's a lot. And remember, in past expansions it was even stronger.
    1) Again, you're talking about a perfect scenario where the fairy is casting 100% embrace, 100% of the time and that simply isn't the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Sure, it'd get a lot of utility back if you could manually target it again. I'm not against that. But it's not a *weak* heal potency-wise. . . It's not weak. It's clunky. There's a difference.
    It IS weak. It just adds up over time. Heal by a thousand micro heals. 100 potency is weak. Period.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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  3. 10-01-2021 08:11 AM #3
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    To add some numbers in the hope of providing clarity.

    At level 80:

    Natural HP Regen - 1.2k
    Embrace - 5.3k
    Soil - 5.3k
    Asylum - 6.3k
    Regen - 11k

    The potency is weak but given there's no GCD cost that's fair enough. The problem is that you can't lean on it anymore since it's just not dependable in any situation where it could make a difference. Meanwhile soil/asylum are vastly superior at topping a raid between most AoEs and frankly, there's plenty of situations where even just letting people naturally regenerate is sufficient.
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