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  1. #121
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    MaxCarnage's Avatar
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    Adiah Highborn
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Now you step out of your final levelling dungeon and you can just go press a button two or three times a minute in a 24 man and still get the full reward and praise for it.
    I agree that it's garbage. I have done plenty of NiER raids where I have died from raid-wide damage... due to not being healed from the previous raid-wide that happened over a minute and a half prior. Yet you get the people who even /defend/ that kind of non-existent healing by claiming that the healer is "doing fine".

    Or in DR where a healer will refuse to even heal themself so they can just spam glare the entire run.

    And honestly, I think it's because there is no accountability anymore for healers. Someone dies due to lack of heals and unavoidable damage, and it's somehow their own fault.
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  2. #122
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    Hurrican's Avatar
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    Legatus Marius
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    Typhon
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Prior, it was based on Eden clear rates. You're generally going to have about a 25/50/25 split here because the composition is enforced. What we actually saw was closer to a 28/42/28 split, meaning when people were getting alt weapons, they chose to get tank/healer weapons instead of more DPS.

    Now a days, if it's based on Relics, there's a pretty easy explanation. Healers are freakin' fun in Bozja, and they own the place.
    Nice guess at the ratio, but you're wrong

    The MH IL data is not limited to Eden Raid tiers RW only, shows either how little you know, or straight up lies


    https://imgur.com/0Vdt03V

    https://imgur.com/a/0PPtdWh



    Anyway, I will give up explaining how they work since such lies got so many likes

    Now I wonder which group is more detached from reality, Devs or those angry healers here
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    Last edited by Hurrican; 09-19-2021 at 10:16 PM.

  3. #123
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    EmpyreanHelios's Avatar
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    Quies Animus
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 76
    No one is trying to trash on new people, they’re new and they’re learning and they’re trying their best.

    But there’s people out here with all classes at 80, full item level 530 gear and can’t be darned to use a tank cd. I know this isn’t true, but sometimes I feel like that’s who the devs are catering towards.

    I don’t want classes to need 300 IQ to pilot, but don’t act like I got 1 IQ. That’s not asking for a lot, at least I don’t think it is.
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  4. #124
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    But this is something I need to address. There are many a times where I have gotten into a duty where the healer has NO clue what they are doing. And I'm not talking low-level, ARR stuff. I'm not even talking HW stuff. But in StB and ShB content, they don't know what they're doing. They already can't balance a dot, 1 damage spell, and multiple healing spells. I don't mean to crap on anyone, as I understand some people take longer to learn than others, but there comes a point in the game where you should have a basic understanding of your class. And I'm just saying, if people already can't handle the "boring, lackluster" way healers currently play, I can only imagine what it would be like if the rotation were more complex.

    I'll give an example from today. I was running as PLD in a mid-60 dungeon, and on the first pull, I exhausted all my CDs, as well as Hollowed and STILL DIED. The healer wasn't holying, they didn't regen, they didn't benison, benediction, asylum, or assize. All they casted was Stone IV, medica II, and the very occasional cure II. In fact, pretty much the entire dungeon, I was only getting healed by the RDM.
    This is exactly why most healers here want more engaging dps abilities, because it wouldn't change anything for those terrible healers, they're already not engaging with any of it. The current design only punishes healers who want to improve, by giving them more downtime as a reward for efficient healing and consequently making their life more boring, healers who struggle to press more than Cure 1 & 2 wouldn't even know that the dps part of their job got more complex.
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  5. #125
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    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Tempest Moon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios View Post
    No one is trying to trash on new people, they’re new and they’re learning and they’re trying their best.

    But there’s people out here with all classes at 80, full item level 530 gear and can’t be darned to use a tank cd. I know this isn’t true, but sometimes I feel like that’s who the devs are catering towards.

    I don’t want classes to need 300 IQ to pilot, but don’t act like I got 1 IQ. That’s not asking for a lot, at least I don’t think it is.
    for now on we only accept trials with players with PhD....just kidding I'm totally agree with you!
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  6. #126
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    Psytic's Avatar
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    Ezra Thorne
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    It legit feels like they have run out of ideas and need some fresh blood on the team. They could always rip off WoW I guess. Sage looks like Disc, they could still do a melee healer or shape shifter or something. Just seems like they have hit their limit creatively.
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  7. #127
    Player Mindiori's Avatar
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    Reika Hanehara
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Casual players are no longer 'time' orientated but those devoid of intellect. A stark difference from the original meaning and they are a blight on the game. There is no compromise between those who enjoy a challenge and those barely intelligent enough to manage the joke that SCH is now. Stop beating around the bush.
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  8. #128
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Character
    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    The moment they give healers two or three more buttons, the complaints will start about how we are supposed to be healing and focusing on that...
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  9. #129
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    Truen's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Brunox Sky
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    The moment they give healers two or three more buttons, the complaints will start about how we are supposed to be healing and focusing on that...
    That doesn't make it true though. What is true is that no one wants to push one button over and over again. How is that fun and interactive?
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    Last edited by Truen; 09-25-2021 at 05:22 AM.

  10. #130
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    That doesn't make it true though. What is true is that no one wants to push one button over and over again. How is that fun and interactive?
    What is also true is no one wants to press 4 buttons to perform the action of one. That's not fun or interactive either. That's bloat.

    I cure, heal affects, occasionally throw out a control on a mob, and dps. I'm not sure what some healers are doing if they are only utilizing one button in thier kit.
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