Worthless Live Letter

[Roeshel]

Go away Roeshel. No one cares about your White Knighting points.

Jesus. One shouldn't need a lot of experience to realize that being mad about something doesn't make them right.

The healers changes for Endwalker are more than good. They have provided more than the bare minimum. Saying that everyone plays like AST pure madness. Every job in the game can weave for free.

Sage literally has a multiple buttons rotation and people on the healer forums are still moaning. Guys, something is just very wrong with you.

Don't expect developers to argue with a tiny bit of their playerbase about the chages they have made. I also think that healing while dpsing is a much more complex than simply lining 3-5 DoTs on the target and then taking your time to heal with GCD heals.

Get a reality check. The changes were good.

[Kraniel]

Jesus. One shouldn't need a lot of experience to realize that being mad about something doesn't make them right.

The healers changes for Endwalker are more than good. They have provided more than the bare minimum. Saying that everyone plays like AST pure madness. Every job in the game can weave for free.

Sage literally has a multiple buttons rotation and people on the healer forums are still moaning. Guys, something is just very wrong with you.

Don't expect developers to argue with a tiny bit of their playerbase about the chages they have made. I also think that healing while dpsing is a much more complex than simply lining 3-5 DoTs on the target and then taking your time to heal with GCD heals.

Get a reality check. The changes were good.

The changes were good but they don't address the core issue of healers spending 95% of their time in content pressing one single button. Unless encounter design is different in EW (which is unlikely the case), this is not going to change.

[Roeshel]

The changes were good but they don't address the core issue of healers spending 95% of their time in content pressing one single button. Unless encounter design is different in EW (which is unlikely the case), this is not going to change.

But they did address that. Sage has like 5 different damaging spells against a ST, the last one looking like Ranged DPS LB1 and then you have actual rotation for AoE plus healing kit that is completely different from the other healers.

If people are actually frustrated that they have to press the same buttons when playing then this game is not for them. Even the so complex and filled with depth DPS classes are pressing the exact same buttons in the exact same order whether it is for savage or dungeon bosses.

[Hustensaft]

But they did address that. Sage has like 5 different damaging spells against a ST, the last one looking like Ranged DPS LB1 and then you have actual rotation for AoE plus healing kit that is completely different from the other healers.

Really?

(1) Dosis III - ST filler
(2) Eucrasia + Dosis III - DoT
(3) Toxicon II - Afflatus Misery (likely tied to spending the blue thingies given their similar names)
(4) Phlegma III - Another charge spell with higher potency then (3) -
(5) Pneuma - 2 min CD laser someone reused the tooltip of (3) on, and added an AoE-HoT and damage reduction effect.
(6) Dyscrasia 2 - spammable melee range AoE

So you have standard filler. Standard DoT that requires two button presses to apply. Why (3) and (4) exist on separate buttons is beyond me - there is practically no decisionmaking here on either of these spells.
Given it's CD and effects, (5) will most likely be used for it's healing/damage reduction first. The AoE rotation you mention i fail to see (no, long cooldown charged spells like afflatus are no rotation)

[GrimGale]

Toxicon II - Afflatus Misery (likely tied to spending the blue thingies given their similar names)

The trailer seems to imply you get your Purple Sage Aetherflow when the target of either your single target shield or your designated heal "partner" gets struck by an enemy. Toxicon costs 1 of the Sage Aetherflow points. Currently the only skill we know that costs one of those points.

[PotatoGirl]

I really love the statement "main hand ilvl surveys shows healers are popular!!!11!!1"

and not realizing how piss easy it is for people to get a relic especially during extreme content drought and people can be sitting on a max ilvl relic

like come on, thats a bad metric and you know it.

[Hurrican]

I really love the statement "main hand ilvl surveys shows healers are popular!!!11!!1"

and not realizing how piss easy it is for people to get a relic especially during extreme content drought and people can be sitting on a max ilvl relic

like come on, thats a bad metric and you know it.

Yes, it's indeed flawed but it's the closest thing we can get.

Also why healers only sits on top when the highest MH IL are so easy to get as you said ?

Why healers increase their MH IL faster than any other jobs even before Resistance Weapon got released?

[Kraniel]

But they did address that. Sage has like 5 different damaging spells against a ST, the last one looking like Ranged DPS LB1 and then you have actual rotation for AoE plus healing kit that is completely different from the other healers.

You're 100% right. Introducing a new job and leave the three others to rot in the garbage bin == addressing the issue with healers.

Plus you're missing my point anyway. We'll never have a DPS rotation as complex as DPS themselves. Why ? Because we're not DPS.
As healers, we don't have a proper DPS kit, but all we do is DPS.
As DPS, we have a proper DPS kit, and all we do is DPS.

I think it's pretty simple to understand where the frustration comes from

Even the so complex and filled with depth DPS classes are pressing the exact same buttons in the exact same order whether it is for savage or dungeon bosses.

This is sophism and you know it.
Of course in the end we all press the same buttons in the game, because we don't get new skills appearing magically in our hotbar every second ...
But the fact that a DPS' rotation consists of at the very least a dozen of buttons, whereas a healer's consists of only two, should still be a good indicator that there's a problem.

Honestly i don't understand how you justify some classes having frequent use of more than 60% of their kit, while others use less than 20%.

[Mindiori]

As usual Sebazy is practically the only thing worth reading. Aword on the other hand...bwahaha.

Healers are so far from fine, or 'popular' its unreal at this point. They were more engaging to play in the days of Aion and nigh a decade before in Korea. Heaven knows what sort of limited intelligence finds what they are now in any way acceptable.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Well, this all just basically confirmed my suspicions. SE is lazy af when it comes to designing and balancing the healers. The fact they literally said they didn’t know what more they could do with scholar….sad and pathetic. But sure give Smn it’s new rework(again) and spend more time talking about your teleportation fees, but don’t actually address the issues with the healers.For some of you saying wait for the encounter design, keep in mind they had said back before ShB in the LL and told us of how the new raid design would promote much more healing…yet there was no change from past expansions.