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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
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    This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 09-07-2021 at 02:51 PM.
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    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.
    This game has sexual themes in it. So that means that from a rp stand point. These players are doing what the world itself has in the lore, and openly talks about at times. Most of the ERP advertising says 18+ from what I saw and has nothing that a kid has not seen if they been online.
    Also the ERSB rating also says that it changes because it is an online game and community meaning Teen is a guideline for the story, not the community.


    I feel bad for the adults also being victims to kids lies as well. You all thinking about the kids, but kids will lie about age, to adults as well. Think of the adults victims as well due to the lies
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    NSFW mods and ERP exists for years in ANY MMORPG. And it was neither a secret nor a big deal until... some streamer put his foot into it. Interesting, isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.
    Pretty sure they stopped cracking down on it since no one has made a thread about it since all that drama happened and the RP community exploded. Also, the issue was advertising the service of selling ERP, 18+ venues that did not involve it were left alone. The issue isn't 18+, the issue is selling sex and having your prices listed publicly on the PF through a link. Those who didn't/don't have been fine and are still operating normally (my friends who own 18+ venues didn't even get touched).

    I'd be more concerned with that fact than why 2 adults want to erp in an MMO.

    Side note: not all teenagers act the same as others. I had a few young people in an FC and they were repulsed by the idea of ERP venues. Perhaps let's not lump all of the minors together under the flag of "They'll go look because they're curious." when some literally don't even want to step inside the door.

    Lastly, modding does not equal public displays of ERP/being lewd...mainly because it's done on your end and no one else in game can see it unless they install the mod as well. Not sure where you were trying to go with that point but figured I'd letcha know.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 09-07-2021 at 09:54 PM.