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    By in large much of this seems to boil down to out of sight out of mind. Not so much as protect the children, more so protect their tiny bubble of a perfect world.
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    Also don't rpers also don't want to take things OOC? They consider talking OOC as a bad form of RP. So does that not make things even tougher to find out real age or not?

    As I said noone is saying let pedos be pedos. All we are saying is that this issue is not so black and white. Ryne has no rights, Pedos is also a sickness, that you can't just magical turn off like some people think. And from what I was told about RPers. If they do something with a minor, They don't know about it because they try to respect ooc. Crazy how that works huh? I think most people if they wanted to do a background check, they would rather do it to find the gender, than worry about the age lol.



    I really do think. "Protect the kids" came up because besides the devs not wanting people to do it. They feel like they have a moral high ground to stand on to punish and get rid of these mods that they don't use and or can't use. So it is easier to attack people, and the issue when you got little kids as a backing on why it is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I really do think. "Protect the kids" came up because besides the devs not wanting people to do it. They feel like they have a moral high ground to stand on to punish and get rid of these mods that they don't use and or can't use. So it is easier to attack people, and the issue when you got little kids as a backing on why it is bad.
    I've always kind of wondered how it works in the JP servers and the devs with this because their age of consent is extremely low compared to the US. Like, I wonder if stuff like this is given a blind eye there if it occurs.

    If anyone has knowledge about this I'm actually curious to know. Not even trying to be funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I've always kind of wondered how it works in the JP servers and the devs with this because their age of consent is extremely low compared to the US. Like, I wonder if stuff like this is given a blind eye there if it occurs.

    If anyone has knowledge about this I'm actually curious to know. Not even trying to be funny.
    Child abuses is a big problem in Japan. Don't know if I can link something like that here but is easy to find reports with relevant stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I've always kind of wondered how it works in the JP servers and the devs with this because their age of consent is extremely low compared to the US. Like, I wonder if stuff like this is given a blind eye there if it occurs.

    If anyone has knowledge about this I'm actually curious to know. Not even trying to be funny.
    And then there are countries where its illegal to be gay. Or where its forbidden that girls can go to school. Ever wondered how they see us?
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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    And then there are countries where its illegal to be gay. Or where its forbidden that girls can go to school. Ever wondered how they see us?
    Somehow I couldn't care less about how a misogynistic and homophobic country sees us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I've always kind of wondered how it works in the JP servers and the devs with this because their age of consent is extremely low compared to the US. Like, I wonder if stuff like this is given a blind eye there if it occurs.
    Such laws are designed to accommodate individuals of similar age entering a relationship. Much like how it's the same in many other countries. After all, there's a pretty huge difference between someone who is 14 entering a relationship with someone who is 13 compared to someone who is 50 entering a relationship with a 14 year old...

    It's pretty gross to think about, really - but it's quite obvious that a lot of the people seeking to downplay the risks to minors are probably well into their 20's, 30's and 40's. Maybe they're even older than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    And then there are countries where its illegal to be gay. Or where its forbidden that girls can go to school. Ever wondered how they see us?
    Please don't draw a comparison between putting minors at risk and being into the same gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Please don't draw a comparison between putting minors at risk and being into the same gender.
    Putting minors at risk? 2 words: School shootings. Mostly a US problem. And people are complaining about the low age of consent in other countries.


    This whole topic is about NSFW and ERP. Not child abuse or putting minors on risk. We are about to celebrate the 100th page of this topic and the only argument I can see is "we have to protect the kids!". Like people saying the ERP comm is full of pedophiles.

    I hate to quote myself but:

    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    If you watch the asmongold interview with the girl modder very closely (5:35), she said that its not allowed to do NSFW with the twins or lalafells.

    I dont know why everybody thinks, that the ERP comm is ok with underage content or having members under 18. But maybe someone can ask a representive of this comm to clarify it, if that is not enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The thread's premise isn't about school shootings - and a number of people commenting within this thread aren't even American, so...

    The discussion is about problems tied specifically to FFXIV.
    This thread's premise isnt about underage NSFW content, either. Its about NSFW mods. And like I ve said before: watch the interview closely. Lewding lalafell, the twins or ryne is strictly forbidden within the ERP comm. What the hell do you want more?


    You want to protect your kids? Raise and educate them!

    If that is not enough, you have to ban all NSFW stuff. And cars, cigarettes, sugar, drugs, alcohol, religions, games in total and everything what potential hurt your children's mental or physical health. Good luck.
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 09-08-2021 at 01:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Putting minors at risk? 2 words: School shootings. Mostly a US problem. And people are complaining about the low age of consent in other countries.
    The thread's premise isn't about school shootings - and a number of people commenting within this thread aren't even American, so...

    The discussion is about problems tied specifically to FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    This thread's premise isnt about underage NSFW content, either. Its about NSFW mods.
    There's a direct parallel, since NSFW content is forbidden by the development team/terms of service and some players are being very brazen and visible in their attempts to advertise and distribute it to players they cannot guarantee are of legal age. To say nothing of the unfortunate fact that the game's community has given form to a number of scandals involving grooming at 'venues', certain Free Companies and also within even at least one prominent Discord channel related to FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 09-08-2021 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Putting minors at risk? 2 words: School shootings. Mostly a US problem.
    That is the most misplaced "mostly" i have ever seen. xD Last school shooting here in germany was 8 years ago and it was with a blank gun. Meanwhile in the US there are dozens and dozens of lethal shootings at schools...
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