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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Still the "BUT the children" argument is really gettin old, like its not like ppl are out there at limsa waiting for innocent little lala to lure them into their private rooms xD
    ...and yet that is precisely something that has happened and continues to happen within the FFXIV community. Strangely enough, despite multiple scandals and people in this very thread pointing out that such things have happened to either themselves or people they know, there's major efforts by some individuals made to downplay and obscure that unfortunate fact.

    Indeed, the amount of gaslighting and manipulation going on is rather bizarre. There's literally people arguing extensively in favour of exposing minors to NSFW content within this very thread. Including across recent pages and yet we still have people showing up to claim that everything is fine and that it's no big deal.
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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Well SE said they won't install spysoftware on our pcs cause of legal reasons. Dunno why, maybe such anticheat software that scans your pc is not legal in japan.

    Without taking any sides here, i feel bad for the modder. xD She must be hated now by the entire modding scene for putting so much attention onto them.
    well to be fair she could of declined the interview but she wanted that fame due to Asmongold. She reaps what she sews now got no sympathy for her. Rule number keep your mouth shut and things won't happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Dont tell me you dressed like a devil/succubus on purpose like the lil demon above you >: 3
    Its getting out of hand. Now there is two of them.
    I literally wear the same outfit since about the first time we met during 3.3 xD


    I m not sure if this thread is some kind of Dantes Inferno. At some point, it looks like a "Divine Comedy" from here.
    I know i should just walk away from it as its the same as religions where you just cant settle with ppl at all... but its like an car crash, you cant look away lol


    We will watch your career with great interest.
    No... Q_Q


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    ...and yet that is precisely something that has happened and continues to happen within the FFXIV community.
    Like... you can go with anyone on your own free will and just as easy you can just... leave again? I get that some are easy to manipulate and all but come on, no real harm can be done here and if you still trust ppl too easily its not the games fault... but how you handle media & internet.

    There's literally people arguing extensively in favour of exposing minors to NSFW content within this very thread.
    You sound like ppl went and said lets #### them all >_>
    Idk why some ppl only see extremes, its not like "minors" dont look for these kind of things... its pointless to act as if its a mortal sin - as someone who's childhood wasnt exactly a piece of cake I fell there are WAY MORE pressing issues then some horny teen that looks for some save fun in an game.

    Violence, murder, all is fun, but dont dare being romantic, dont dare the shy teen might have an way of overcoming problems... sure its better to just let them go straight to [insert random adult video site] for the real stuff...

    While being too young maybe, i just cant worry too much about some teens, yet you make it sound like 8-9yo are being exposed here - sure it might happen but thats neither the modders or SE's fault...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Unless you are assuming all ERP's are a bunch of plonkers that have the self-control of a horny monkey your argument makes no sense to me.


    Off late, some are acting like FFXIV is not only +18 but it's also some kind of porn convention and everything goes.

    Anyway, I agree with you, parents should be the one's looking out for that kind of stuff the most. So, the ERP community should not have a meltdown is a Tier S Karen report them and they got ban because their behaviour is against the ToS. Or worst, they go to complain somewhere else (mainstream media love this type of "scandals") and SE is force to protect their brand.
    It is not our obligation to take time out of our day to find and or report people that break the ToS. See something, say something is more so a suggestion.

    On the other side people also supposedly have reported actions to SE and nothing gets done so it would not surprise me if people just feel reporting is a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Your Uno reverse card is also expired. You talk about about private rooms and how we shouldn't bother to care, hm? And weird how defensive you get after being called out for it. You have something to hide? xD

    You know this game is rated 13+, yeah? Children are playing it. People don't bother to confirm the age of the people they drag into your so called "private rooms". Think about that, lol.
    I am not into ERP do people legit as others to show their ID to people online? Only way I can see to confirm someone's age or is it more of an honor system kind of thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Oh, sure! So sexting between minors and adults is good cause it happens where nobody can see it. Gotcha! Great morals you have there.

    Wonder if that would work also irl, just molesting a child where nobody can see it! That would make it ok, right? Right?!

    Please never become a lawyer, your defense is really bad.
    I'm not sure what any of this has to do with NSFW mods or ERP.

    If someone in those communities does something bad you remove/arrest that someone; you don't excise the entire community.

    It's like saying violent, competitive games where players kill each other shouldn't exist because they might attract sociopaths. Dating apps might attract perverts, predators. What's available to adults shouldn't have to be built entirely around the existence of crazy people and children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I'm not sure what any of this has to do with NSFW mods or ERP.

    If someone in those communities does something bad you remove/arrest that someone; you don't excise the entire community.

    It's like saying violent, competitive games where players kill each other shouldn't exist because they might attract sociopaths. Dating apps might attract perverts, predators. What's available to adults shouldn't have to be built entirely around the existence of crazy people and children.
    To be fair did have a therapist tell me not to play games like GTA due to my at the time borderline ASPD assessment when I was younger. Even now many of my therapist are stuck in the dark ages and are not too keen on me engaging with some forms of media and other such as horror films and stuff. Though being as I am an adult not much they can do about it now unlike when I was a child they had my mother's support.

    So many might be in favor of such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I'm not sure what any of this has to do with NSFW mods or ERP.

    If someone in those communities does something bad you remove/arrest that someone; you don't excise the entire community.

    It's like saying violent, competitive games where players kill each other shouldn't exist because they might attract sociopaths. Dating apps might attract perverts, predators. What's available to adults shouldn't have to be built entirely around the existence of crazy people and children.
    People have claimed in the past that you cannot tell who is a minor in ERP, when people asked what ERPers can do to prevent accidental interactions with a minor. It's basically a stonewall people put up saying 'nope, we won't do it and we don't care if minors get involved.' It's the stonewall behavior that creates the tension.

    Those dating apps exist for the purpose of being a dating service. FFXIV does not exist as a dating service or a porn game. That is not the intended purpose. Real roleplay, adventuring, exploring, raiding, pvping,* crafting, gathering, decorating, glamouring, etc... there are so many thing FFXIV is a game for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    People have claimed in the past that you cannot tell who is a minor in ERP, when people asked what ERPers can do to prevent accidental interactions with a minor. It's basically a stonewall people put up saying 'nope, we won't do it and we don't care if minors get involved.' It's the stonewall behavior that creates the tension.

    Those dating apps exist for the purpose of being a dating service. FFXIV does not exist as a dating service or a porn game. That is not the intended purpose. Real roleplay, adventuring, exploring, raiding, pvping,* crafting, gathering, decorating, glamouring, etc... there are so many thing FFXIV is a game for.
    Legit what could be done regarding minors and ERP? Not like photoshopping an ID is difficult or simplying lying about ones age. I would not say it is stone wall behavior more so what do people expect others to do? The burden should be on the parents to watch their kids not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Legit what could be done regarding minors and ERP? Not like photoshopping an ID is difficult or simplying lying about ones age. I would not say it is stone wall behavior more so what do people expect others to do? The burden should be on the parents to watch their kids not the other way around.
    The last part is not going to work that way in most places. If something happen and authorities get involved the adult is the one responsible, no matter if the child lies or whatever.
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