Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Batbrat]

Sure, a parent should always be there to teach their child the dangers of being online, and interacting with strangers, but I also think adults should act responsibly and understand that they aren't the center of the universe, and keep their desires, or hobbies, in check.

That's the thing though, adults keep their hobbies in check all the time. That's why most go out of their way to say "no minors" and that is exactly why minors lie. To get in anyway. And this is 100% bad parenting. 1000%. If a kid doesnt know it was wrong, then they have a failure of a parent because they should have been taught that. and if they do know it was wrong and lied anyway, then again, failure of a parent because they knew it was wrong and still did it which means their parents has absolutely no control over them.

Whether you want to admit or not, bad parenting is almost the norm now. People give their kids ipads, iphones, pc, laptops and just let them run wild as if they completely forgot the dangers of it all. Do you know how many cases of missing children I hear about stemming from unsupervised online activity?? Criminal Justice is my strongest interest so please understand that when I say this is the parents fault, it is. Because all of the cases I hear about are all because some idiot parent thought they were doing their kid a big favor by giving them all the privacy in the world. They completely disregarded what should be their natural instinct to protect their children in favor of being what I'm guessing is politically correct by letting their children find their way themselves. Well these kids find their way into trouble, sometimes by force via lying their way into it. Is it the kids fault? No, they're supposed to be stupid and curious. As a parent, it's your job and nobody else's to make sure your kid doesnt go wandering into wolves dens. Bears do it, zebras do it-the whole rest of the animal kingdom does it so why is it too much to ask that humans do it???

"Waah but parents work" I don't care. That's not a free pass to throw your children at everyone else. It's not being too busy, it's being lazy and avoidant. Maybe just don't squat and pop out kids if you think its too much to bare to sit them down and tell them what happens to kids who engage in dangerous behavior on the internet.

Like I don't mean to be so aggressive about it but you have to understand how livid this topic makes people who work in the crime field. How many times you hear the same exact setups and results. and then people like you who insist that kids wandering somehow isnt the parents fault and how the whole rest of the world should have stopped instead. It's maddening. The answer isnt to punish surrounding adults who don't even know whats going on, the answer is to better control the children and that is the parents responsibility.

[SturmChurro]

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This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.

[Jadedsins]

This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.

This game has sexual themes in it. So that means that from a rp stand point. These players are doing what the world itself has in the lore, and openly talks about at times. Most of the ERP advertising says 18+ from what I saw and has nothing that a kid has not seen if they been online.
Also the ERSB rating also says that it changes because it is an online game and community meaning Teen is a guideline for the story, not the community.


I feel bad for the adults also being victims to kids lies as well. You all thinking about the kids, but kids will lie about age, to adults as well. Think of the adults victims as well due to the lies

[Caitlyn]

NSFW mods and ERP exists for years in ANY MMORPG. And it was neither a secret nor a big deal until... some streamer put his foot into it. Interesting, isnt it?

[LianaThorne]

This isn't just some child wandering around. It's a 13+ mmorpg. It's called a time and place. Adults shouldn't be advertising ERP, or having public access venues. This completely goes against the "being done in private" narrative, in my opinion, "well we said 18+ at the door".. A player cannot (or shouldn't) be able to do an ACTUAL background check that keeps underage people out of "adult" venues, like in real life. Frankly, I don't think many players are too concerned with that, because they can then blame all the fault on "bad parenting". Again, it's called taking responsibility. If one must participate in things like ERP or NSFW modding - it should be kept truly private. It's why I assume the GMs were cracking down on advertisements claiming "18+", and citing the age rating. It's not being done in private. Children are curious and impressionable, and this game is available for a wide variety of ages. Again, I think the "bad parenting" argument only stands if this were an AO game with explicit themes, and these sort of interactions are expected.

Pretty sure they stopped cracking down on it since no one has made a thread about it since all that drama happened and the RP community exploded. Also, the issue was advertising the service of selling ERP, 18+ venues that did not involve it were left alone. The issue isn't 18+, the issue is selling sex and having your prices listed publicly on the PF through a link. Those who didn't/don't have been fine and are still operating normally (my friends who own 18+ venues didn't even get touched).

I'd be more concerned with that fact than why 2 adults want to erp in an MMO.

Side note: not all teenagers act the same as others. I had a few young people in an FC and they were repulsed by the idea of ERP venues. Perhaps let's not lump all of the minors together under the flag of "They'll go look because they're curious." when some literally don't even want to step inside the door.

Lastly, modding does not equal public displays of ERP/being lewd...mainly because it's done on your end and no one else in game can see it unless they install the mod as well. Not sure where you were trying to go with that point but figured I'd letcha know.