Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Zsolen]

If you can't stop it, and you understand teens are very sexual active. Doing it with no risk to their body is the lesser evil.

I'm talking about the mods here. You keep going back to the ERP involving minors.

- It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

-Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

- It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

- I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.

Maybe you should tell your friend here not to talk about it. No, it is not on the parents that their kids are playing a T game and are a T.

Anyway, I am talking about individual responsibility. Of course they won't do it. If they did, they would not have made or used these mods in the first place, because no responsible person would do that. I don't actually expect any of them to do the right thing, but they argue nothing can be done. However, that is not true. They can simply stop doing it, and most certainly don't post it on Twitter all the time. It shouldn't be about what you think you can get away with, and instead it should be about what is right.

There is a legal way for SE to handle this, but it is a really sucky method, but it could come down to that or worse.

[Jadedsins]

I'm talking about the mods here. You keep going back to the ERP involving minors.



Maybe you should tell your friend here not to talk about it. No, it is not on the parents that their kids are playing a T game and are a T.

Anyway, I am talking about individual responsibility. Of course they won't do it. If they did, they would not have made or used these mods in the first place, because no responsible person would do that. I don't actually expect any of them to do the right thing, but they argue nothing can be done. However, that is not true. They can simply stop doing it, and most certainly don't post it on Twitter all the time. It shouldn't be about what you think you can get away with, and instead it should be about what is right.

There is a legal way for SE to handle this, but it is a really sucky method, but it could come down to that or worse.

Sorry, two topics by groups of people.


To me it is pixels and I can't see it.. Someone making a case about if it becomes wildly spread, but um rule 4 stuff and art is i bet even more wide spread. So ehhhh hard to make that case.

[LianaThorne]

I'm talking about the mods here. You keep going back to the ERP involving minors.



Maybe you should tell your friend here not to talk about it. No, it is not on the parents that their kids are playing a T game and are a T.

Anyway, I am talking about individual responsibility. Of course they won't do it. If they did, they would not have made or used these mods in the first place, because no responsible person would do that. I don't actually expect any of them to do the right thing, but they argue nothing can be done. However, that is not true. They can simply stop doing it, and most certainly don't post it on Twitter all the time. It shouldn't be about what you think you can get away with, and instead it should be about what is right.

There is a legal way for SE to handle this, but it is a really sucky method, but it could come down to that or worse.

I wasn't planning to reply but oh well.

Yes it is on the parents to monitor their children & TEENAGERS on the internet. They are not adults and are not able to make the same educated decisions that an adult would. Therefore, the parents should 100% be involved and it shouldn't even be a question of whether or not they should be involved. If you're trying to give parents a free pass to be lazy in their kids lives while shoving 100% of the responsibility on other people....oh boy that's the real problem here.

It's a two way street. It's on both. It always has been. It's on modders to try to keep their content as close to an adult audience as possible and on parents to monitor their kids and help them stay safe online.

You can ban mods off FF but lewd images and things will still crop up in other forms. Hell, there's websites dedicated to it. If you don't want the teenagers in your life to see it, have some personality responsibility and put in parental controls.

[Zsolen]

You really are adamant on having spyware scanning our games, aren't you? Might as well punish people who use Discord's overlay, NVIDIA GeForce Experience and ReShade/GSHADE while we're at it.

I hate spyware to a massive degree and I am a major privacy advocate on a great many things but the alternative is worse. If people can't be trusted to do the right thing, what other choice will SE have, outside shutting down the servers? If people don't want SE to respond, they should not back them into a corner.

I certainly would not put SE on the same levels as say Google or the US and UK governments, when it comes to people's privacy.

I wasn't planning to reply but oh well.

Yes it is on the parents to monitor their children & TEENAGERS on the internet. They are not adults and are not able to make the same educated decisions that an adult would. Therefore, the parents should 100% be involved and it shouldn't even be a question of whether or not they should be involved. If you're trying to give parents a free pass to be lazy in their kids lives while shoving 100% of the responsibility on other people....oh boy that's the real problem here.

It's a two way street. It's on both. It always has been. It's on modders to try to keep their content as close to an adult audience as possible and on parents to monitor their kids and help them stay safe online.

You can ban mods off FF but lewd images and things will still crop up in other forms. If you don't want the teenagers in your life to see it, have some personality responsibility and put in parental controls.

It's a game rated T. Stop using the internet as an excuse for this type of behavior. Teens will do stuff on their own. An adult should not be bringing that to teens. That adult that does bring it to teens is responsible. They are the ones doing it. You complained being off topic over the ERP with teens, but you bring it back up and pretended I was talking about the internet in general or Twitter.

As for the modders, they clearly don't care what people see on the cesspool of the internet Twitter, adult or child. That is a major issue. That's bad for SE, which is also bad for the player base. The minor stuff is outright illegal.

[Driavna]

Yes it is on the parents to monitor their children & TEENAGERS on the internet.

And if said parent reports that person will be ban, or perhaps even something more serious. This is like in real life with night clubs, even if said club check ID and only allow adults if a minor fake one and go in the person that had any kind of intimacy with said minor is the one in big trouble. Saying: "is not my problem it's the parents problem" is big brain stupidity just waiting to cash out at some point or another.

[LianaThorne]

- It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

-Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

- It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

- I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.

[Jadedsins]

- It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

-Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

- It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

- I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.

Ya it is kinda my fault, when someone used kids as an excuse to get rid of these mods. I kinda jumped on that.

[Theodric]

It isn't really a case of people taking to the moral high ground. Certain actions are almost universally looked upon with contempt and disgust in civilised, lawful societies - and quite rightly, too.

To say nothing of the fact that everybody playing Final Fantasy XIV agreed to abide by a specific set of rules. If those rules are breached, then there's a real risk of punishment and based on the severity of the action then things could very well be elevated and sent to the appropriate authorities.

Members of the development team have also spoken out in the past and informed people not to sexualise characters who are not of legal age and also to not make use of inappropriate mods - because such things could risk the game's very existence.

[Jadedsins]

It isn't really a case of people taking to the moral high ground. Some actions are almost universally looked upon with contempt and disgust in civilised, lawful societies - and quite rightly, too.

To say nothing of the fact that everybody playing Final Fantasy XIV agreed to abide by a specific set of rules. If those rules are breached, then there's a real risk of punishment and based on the severity of the action then things could very well be elevated and sent to the appropriate authorities.

Rules only matter if they are enforced. Since they can't enforced this. The rule does not matter. That is the simple truth.

Second law side communication with a minor for immoral purposes is a law, but if the person lies about her age, . You understand just how hard it would be to have these charges held?


When I said taking a moral high ground it is more on the lines of being outrage about something that you can't change, and have to accept like it or not.

[lezard21]

Imagine you invite me to your house to meet your family.

But when I arrive I say "Actually I don't like pants" and take them off.

That's what NSFW modding is.

You are playing a T rated game. Not M nor AO. When you signed up for the game you accepted you are playing a T rated game. If you want adult content go play an adult game.