Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Goji1639]

dude calls lewd mods of minors „just“ a hobby
classifies laws most countries follow, for a good reason, as archaic and compares them to a country‘s law about chewing gum
calls others creeps for questioning it - tries to marginalize the problem by calling it „just pixel configuration“, best of gaslighting this thread has ever seen
welp i‘m done, stay sane folks!

What problem am I marginalizing? You haven't even explained who you're protecting in all of this. It's weird I feel like I have to ask this, but you do realize the characters in this game aren't real people, right?

All you're really doing is coming up with a pretext to stalk people who look at pixel renderings you don't like. I just find that creepy, is all. The fact that it's made you so defensive indicates that you probably realize just how creepy it is. Stay sane indeed.

[Theodric]

There's a reason why laws broken by children aren't applied the same way as they are applied to adults - they're not fully developed on a physical, mental or emotional level. So blaming children, even if they lie, isn't the right call as the guilty party is always the individual or groups propositioning people for adult activities in cases where they cannot prove that someone is not a minor.

[Goji1639]

There's a reason why laws broken by children aren't applied the same way as they are applied to adults - they're not fully developed on a physical, mental or emotional level. So blaming children, even if they lie, isn't the right call as the guilty party is always the individual or groups propositioning people for adult activities in cases where they cannot prove that someone is not a minor.

The blame isn't applied to the children, it's applied to their parents.

Adults are allowed to have adult conversations with other adults on the internet; no age verification legally or ethically required. An unsupervised child lying his way into the situation is 100% a parental failing, and that's where all of the responsibility lies.

[SturmChurro]

This isn't an AO game, it shouldn't be done in the first place. Even more so if a player's age isn't truly verifiable. This is a 13+ game, and I think some players should control themselves, and keep the age rating in mind. However, as this thread is supposed to be about NSFW modding I will not go into a full on argument in this thread, or simply repeat what has been said many times over.

[Awha]

There's a reason why laws broken by children aren't applied the same way as they are applied to adults - they're not fully developed on a physical, mental or emotional level. So blaming children, even if they lie, isn't the right call as the guilty party is always the individual or groups propositioning people for adult activities in cases where they cannot prove that someone is not a minor.

Thing is people shift the blame from the poor parenting to the adult that was operating not on the assumption but based on the information given to them by the person was truthful.

Parents failed that child cause they did not teach them right. Too many people hide behind not being fully developed on a mental or emotional level. My social and emotional scores fall in the level 1 range but even I know lying to people for personal gain is wrong. If my parents instilled that into a child with a non neurotypical I am sure parents should be able to do the same to a neurotypical child.

Though that means parents would have to accept that children's actions are a reflection of their own selves.

[Goji1639]

This isn't an AO game, it shouldn't be done in the first place. Even more so if a player's age isn't truly verifiable. This is a 13+ game, and I think some players should control themselves, and keep the age rating in mind. However, as this thread is supposed to be about NSFW modding I will not go into a full on argument in this thread, or simply repeat what has been said many times over.

You think it shouldn't happen in a game like this, and that's fine. I personally don't have a problem with it as long as the intent is to do it in private with an adult.

Should and shouldn't don't really matter, though; it's GOING to happen. Adults are going to want to converse with other adults in adult ways in any social environment. People can either accept reality and actually start paying attention to what their kids do online, or continue sitting on their fat asses rambling about how they think things "should" be, while their kids run rampant on the internet doing god knows what completely unsupervised.

If parents want their kids online then parents have to step up; the world isn't going to change to do this job for them.

[SturmChurro]

You think it shouldn't happen in a game like this, and that's fine. I personally don't have a problem with it as long as the intent is to do it in private with an adult.

Should and shouldn't don't really matter, though; it's GOING to happen. Adults are going to want to converse with other adults in adult ways in any social environment. People can either accept reality and actually start paying attention to what their kids do online, or continue sitting on their fat asses rambling about how they think things "should" be, while their kids run rampant on the internet doing god knows what completely unsupervised.

If parents want their kids online then parents have to step up; the world isn't going to change to do this job for them.

I can't control what people do in their free time, whether it's NSFW modding or ERPing. However, players should keep in mind that there are children playing this game whether they want to believe it or not, and not everybody they interact with in-game or via social media will be an adult. I do not think it is fair to blame parenting here, as this game is a 13+, and GMs have stated previously to keep the age rating in mind. If this game was an AO game, with explicit themes, then I could understand the argument for "bad parenting", but I do not think it really applies here. Sure, a parent should always be there to teach their child the dangers of being online, and interacting with strangers, but I also think adults should act responsibly and understand that they aren't the center of the universe, and keep their desires, or hobbies, in check.

[Goji1639]

I can't control what people do in their free time, whether it's NSFW modding or ERPing. However, players should keep in mind that there are children playing this game whether they want to believe it or not, and not everybody they interact with in-game or via social media will be an adult. I do not think it is fair to blame parenting here, as this game is a 13+, and GMs have stated previously to keep the age rating in mind. If this game was an AO game, with explicit themes, then I could understand the argument for "bad parenting", but I do not think it really applies here. Sure, a parent should always be there to teach their child the dangers of being online, and interacting with strangers, but I also think adults should act responsibly and understand that they aren't the center of the universe, and keep their desires, or hobbies, in check.

Adults do understand that, which is why these things are done in private and they'll generally at least ask the age of anyone who tries to participate. Those are entirely reasonable considerations when playing a game that might have kids involved.

If your kids are lying in a video game in order to forcibly involve themselves in lewd activity with an adult, however, then yea I'd say that's less than adequate parenting. As nice as it might feel to blame the game for something like that; it's your negligence and incompetence as a parent that caused it.

Also, M ratings don't mean anything. Those games have just as many kids playing as FFXIV does, and everyone knows it.

[Batbrat]

Sure, a parent should always be there to teach their child the dangers of being online, and interacting with strangers, but I also think adults should act responsibly and understand that they aren't the center of the universe, and keep their desires, or hobbies, in check.

That's the thing though, adults keep their hobbies in check all the time. That's why most go out of their way to say "no minors" and that is exactly why minors lie. To get in anyway. And this is 100% bad parenting. 1000%. If a kid doesnt know it was wrong, then they have a failure of a parent because they should have been taught that. and if they do know it was wrong and lied anyway, then again, failure of a parent because they knew it was wrong and still did it which means their parents has absolutely no control over them.

Whether you want to admit or not, bad parenting is almost the norm now. People give their kids ipads, iphones, pc, laptops and just let them run wild as if they completely forgot the dangers of it all. Do you know how many cases of missing children I hear about stemming from unsupervised online activity?? Criminal Justice is my strongest interest so please understand that when I say this is the parents fault, it is. Because all of the cases I hear about are all because some idiot parent thought they were doing their kid a big favor by giving them all the privacy in the world. They completely disregarded what should be their natural instinct to protect their children in favor of being what I'm guessing is politically correct by letting their children find their way themselves. Well these kids find their way into trouble, sometimes by force via lying their way into it. Is it the kids fault? No, they're supposed to be stupid and curious. As a parent, it's your job and nobody else's to make sure your kid doesnt go wandering into wolves dens. Bears do it, zebras do it-the whole rest of the animal kingdom does it so why is it too much to ask that humans do it???

"Waah but parents work" I don't care. That's not a free pass to throw your children at everyone else. It's not being too busy, it's being lazy and avoidant. Maybe just don't squat and pop out kids if you think its too much to bare to sit them down and tell them what happens to kids who engage in dangerous behavior on the internet.

Like I don't mean to be so aggressive about it but you have to understand how livid this topic makes people who work in the crime field. How many times you hear the same exact setups and results. and then people like you who insist that kids wandering somehow isnt the parents fault and how the whole rest of the world should have stopped instead. It's maddening. The answer isnt to punish surrounding adults who don't even know whats going on, the answer is to better control the children and that is the parents responsibility.

[Jadedsins]

Imagine calling someone creepy when you're pro pedophilia

Yes because people are pro pedo because Ryne is a real person and has rights.


We have a bigger problem with Stalkers, and people who think this game is reality. That escape into it so much, that they are confused on who is real. That is the bigger problem than these pedos hurting ryne rights.



And people who say erp should not be going on. Are you new to MMORPGS? This has a long history in it. I mean when I was a kid, VTM table top games turned out to be make out sessions. When ever RPG happens, it can turn sexual. Because that is part of human nature. People need to stop acting like it is some grand evil, and using protect the kids to make these people look bad was not only silly, but is sad.