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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    16 being the age of consent in some parts of the world doenst make it any less gross. It's the sexualization of a minor, doesnt matter if in some country its the age of consent.

    Is it? Because ryne is not a minor. She is not real. Unless now fake pixels is a victim and a law has been broken?

    I'm really trying to understand here, but it is hard to be upset about something that makes no victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Is it? Because ryne is not a minor. She is not real. Unless now fake pixels is a victim and a law has been broken?

    I'm really trying to understand here, but it is hard to be upset about something that makes no victims.
    because sexual depiction of minors is illegal, no matter if pixelated or not, hello??? why are people straight up downplaying this, this is utterly disgusting. the thought alone people defending lewd art of minors in this game makes my stomach turn and gives shivers down my spine. this is so gross im sorry and gives off huge red flags

    Yoshi P:
    There are people using mods to take (lewd) screenshots in the game, people say I haven’t been taking a stance on this. It isn’t allowed.”

    Depending on the content you publish, it goes beyond just getting a penalty from Square Enix, in some countries some of the screenshots we see are against the law. We want to avoid being asked ‘What game are these screenshots taken in? Change the data, don’t let them do this’, so I ask you to please refrain from using mods.”
    respect it, there is nothing more to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    because sexual depiction of minors is illegal, no matter if pixelated or not, hello??? why are people straight up downplaying this, this is utterly disgusting. the thought alone people defending lewd art of minors in this game makes my stomach turn and gives shivers down my spine. this is so gross im sorry and gives off huge red flags

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    respect it, there is nothing more to say.

    That is false. I mean do you all understand how many horror books authors would be going to jail because of that? Or any story teller that has messed up issues in it.


    I'm downplaying it because it is not a issue. Ryne is not a victim, Ryne is not a minor. She is not real. So again, what law has been broken? I'm really curious now. How a crime has happen to someone who is not real. This should be good.


    Also I don't really got to respect a thing, as I don't use addons...but I'm not going to stop others who do it because they enjoy using them. Yoshi p is not enforcing the rules so how he feels about it does not matter.
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    Last edited by Jadedsins; 08-31-2021 at 04:30 AM.

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    Jesus Christ I went on a 30 minute drive and y'all posted like 2 more pages of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    That is false. I mean do you all understand how many horror books authors would be going to jail because of that? Or any story teller that has messed up issues in it.
    you are comparing apples to pears. you dont read/watch horror movies because you have an urge to kill somebody. there might be a few percentage that is psychopathic enough that does for that reason - but we can agree the vast mojority does not. and don‘t you think if there are psychopaths watching it for that reason, it‘s a good idea to feed them ideas? no, you lock them up.
    there is only 1 reason as to why people do lewd art of minors, that is the concerning part. there is no other reason and not comparable to somebody writing a horror book.
    there is a reason why writing horror books is legal and doing pixelated lewd art of minors is not. and it‘s really sinister you people try to draw the comparison there to downplay how disgusting it is. really concerning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    you are comparing apples to pears. you dont read/watch horror movies because you have an urge to kill somebody. there might be a few percentage that is psychopathic enough that does for that reason - but we can agree the vast mojority does not. and don‘t you think if there are psychopaths watching it for that reason, it‘s a good idea to feed them ideas? no, you lock them up.
    there is only 1 reason as to why people do lewd art of minors, that is the concerning part. there is no other reason and not comparable to somebody writing a horror book.
    there is a reason why writing horror books is legal and doing pixelated lewd art of minors is not. and it‘s really sinister you people try to draw the comparison there to downplay how disgusting it is. really concerning.

    Oh? maybe they do have a fetish and enjoy it but would never act on it. Like who am I to know or care? The point I'm making is. If no victim has happen. We should not care. That is like the mothers getting upset over the IT books cause of that dumb one part of it. Or how about metal gear games when it has really messed up things with that one kid that ended up in sexual.


    So you saying horror books are ok because it is not real murder right? Well this is not real also. So my point still stands. Murder is just as bad in my eyes. People get enjoyment out of watching people get murder. So should I judge them also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Oh? maybe they do have a fetish and enjoy it but would never act on it. Like who am I to know or care? The point I'm making is. If no victim has happen. We should not care. That is like the mothers getting upset over the IT books cause of that dumb one part of it. Or how about metal gear games when it has really messed up things with that one kid that ended up in sexual.


    So you saying horror books are ok because it is not real murder right? Well this is not real also. So my point still stands. Murder is just as bad in my eyes. People get enjoyment out of watching people get murder. So should I judge them also?
    no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
    there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two makes no sense as i‘ve stated above.
    and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


    tldr
    watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
    people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

    this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me. it‘s also really difficult to word things in english, since i‘m not a native speaker.
    just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
    there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two make no sense as i‘ve stated above.
    and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


    tldr
    watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
    people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

    this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me.
    just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.

    How do you know that? Are you saying someone who gets a sexual rise out of horror movies, and yes I know many who do. Fear can be used for passion as well, and I know a girl who loves to watch horror movies and be scared for that reason.

    So are you saying making Ryne naked makes someone a pedo? Because that logic is strange since She is not real so is not a minor.


    I'm not speaking on you are a murder if you enjoy horror movies. These people clearly enjoy seeing it with this mod. So does that make them a pedo? That is the same as what you are saying. Unless you ACT on it with a real person aka real person pictures/or whatever nasty thing you can think of. Your point would stand. Ryne is not real, so nothing to worry about. Just like them horror movies.


    The line needs to be drawn at some place. I rather someone get kicks off something that is not real, than do it real. Just because they have that desire does not mean they are bad, if they act on that desire they would be. And if this helps them. Who am I to judge?


    My husband has made me want to kill him, and It was PRETTY real at the time. Like my anger was that high, So because I felt that desire I'm now a murder? Know what I did? I went on sims 4 and killed a bunch of people in it. Oh noes i am a bad person.
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    Last edited by Jadedsins; 08-31-2021 at 06:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
    there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two makes no sense as i‘ve stated above.
    and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


    tldr
    watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
    people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

    this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me. it‘s also really difficult to word things in english, since i‘m not a native speaker.
    just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.
    I do not feel bad for the person being killed in horror movies i often cheer the killer on. I laugh i enjoy seeing how the killer kills their victims in horror movies.

    Does that make me a sick person? Also to be fair some Doctors do allow some to keep tbeir urges in check by using other forms of media like hentai. It is one of those conflicted methodologies when it comes to treating such behavior.
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    It's really crazy and disheartening how people are trying to deceive and spin the narrative with dishonest arguments and crooked lines of reasoning.

    Contrary to what people in this thread want you to believe, the problem isn't some arbitrary force trying to limit your 'freedom' or use of mods. It's about how the depiction of naked kids (including Lalafells) and engaging in ERP with minors shouldn't be allowed and should definitely not be encouraged by the community.

    It doesn't matter whether or not the in-game models are 'real' or not. Pedophilia is a legit psychiatric disorder. The defense of 'but Lalafells are adults )' is superweak since their appearance will always be prepubescent.

    Come on. What are we even doing here?
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