Pulling During Cutscene

[Lenivy]

Your mentality is tragic and I'm sorry you treat everyone that way. I hope one day you can learn to not.

Pay my sub, then tell me how to play the game.
Thaths onyly bull rule i will accept from you fake liberators.

[Lenivy]

Lenivy gotta speed run or his house is always on fire so gotta go sonic.

No i just enjoy waiting for an hour for random unreal levi more than to conform to bunch of randoms who dont care what i do. I am such a counter culture, omg!

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Because them coming out of a cutscene like I have to find the boss dead or nearly there is a sucky feeling.. here comes this big story fight and oh I missed it because people could not wait 30 seconds..
It's a simple courtesy to make sure you are not ruining someone else's first time experiencing the content. Simple as that. How you can't wrap your head around that idk..
They will never have another first time, does not matter if they will do it again later or never come back. That first time they have ONE shot at.. don't ruin it with your impatience.

[EtherRose]

Let me tell you why it's not selfish because this is the way the developers intended for us to experience the story. The rest of what you are saying is just trying to justify you stance. So is irrelevant. If the developers didn't intend for people to experience the story in this manner they would not have put it in. You want to change things to suit your needs that is the truly selfish part.

Again I don't specifically mean YOU I mean those who complain about people enjoying content that was clearly designed to be watched and enjoyed to further the plot of the story. I don't understand what some people think when they are told this is a STORY centric MMORPG. Not a jump in and hack and slash game.

The sheer lengths that people go to, to justify bad behavior is astounding. Seriously. LMAO.

So the option of being able to skip cutscenes and pull mobs/bosses while others are in a cutscene is the way developers intended for them to experience the story? Because if they truly did, no one would have a skip option and you would be locked inside a little area like when you do primals until everyone is ready.

Do you know why? It's because again, no one is obligated to any one else. People play how they want to play regardless of the outcome. This is what you're not understanding. Yes, morally it is wrong and people know this.

It's not a justification. It's a logical understanding altogether in which all plausible scenarios are considered depending on the individual. You say It's bad because it ruins a first timers experience. A random first timer might say they don't care and just want to play. So who's right? Are you going to shun that first timer because they don't care and try to justify your explanation? No one is obligated to another, at all. Not every one cares and doesn't mind if mobs are pulled when they are in a cutscene. Not everyone is the same.

When it comes to something like this in an MMO, communication is key. KEY. It doesn't matter if we see a first-timer notice. If you don't speak up, forever hold your peace. And when you do say something most people will gladly wait for you and are nice. Silence = Ok we are doing what ever.

[Kolaina]

It's not against ToS to wait for someone in a cutscene, holy cow you guys are reaching. Pure nonsense and a waste of an otherwise decent discussion on-going.

It it is against the terms of service to not participate. Unless the person in cutscene is a tank or healer, if that pull happens, you are meant to partake in the fight. Its not reaching. Holding back because possible wipe for not having a tank or healer is 1 thing. But not joining in because someone is watching cutscene and you are making a stand is another. One of those is reportable

[MaxCarnage]

Because them coming out of a cutscene like I have to find the boss dead or nearly there is a sucky feeling.. here comes this big story fight and oh I missed it because people could not wait 30 seconds..

I'm just saying if the boss could be dead by the time you're out of cutscene... well... either that was not a "30 second" cutscene, or you're proving that it takes longer to wait than it does to fight it.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I'm just saying if the boss could be dead by the time you're out of cutscene... well... either that was not a "30 second" cutscene, or you're proving that it takes longer to wait than it does to fight it.

I was first timing a dungeon with some fc members and they pulled and managed to kill the ascian and take us straight into the next cutscene before I was even out of the starting one. It was a bummer for sure. I really was not in the cutscene long at all.. It's the one fight that is split into two so he does not take long to kill at all with how overgeared they were.

Really, I rather give someone a minute to watch and have that good first time feeling. The one time I pulled in tower without realising someone was still in a cutscene I felt so guilty. This is a more story oriented mmo than others, give people the chance to enjoy that. It's really not asking for much to take a minute to wait.

[Snorky]

It it is against the terms of service to not participate. Unless the person in cutscene is a tank or healer, if that pull happens, you are meant to partake in the fight. Its not reaching. Holding back because possible wipe for not having a tank or healer is 1 thing. But not joining in because someone is watching cutscene and you are making a stand is another. One of those is reportable

It's not against ToS to watch a cut scene omg I am not swallowing that explanation you just gave. I also wait for the healer if they are running behind because use to be healers in MMOs were pretty vulnerable to trash mobs etc so it is my habit. If someone is waiting for the rest of the group and one person decides to pull all I can say is Leroy Jenkins if you don't know what that means just Google it.

[Kolaina]

It's not against ToS to watch a cut scene omg I am not swallowing that explanation you just gave.

Sigh. This is getting ridiculous having to really explain what is actually said rather than have you twist it into what you want to argue against.
So let me explain using a scenario.
We will say, a dps is new. Only the 1 dps. Reach the final boss. Dps is in cut scene, and only the dps. Tank pulls. Healer disagrees because they believe the dps should be able to partipate in the whole fight and the tank should have waited for cutscene to finish. So healer stays behind barrier, and tank dies. What the healer did, CHOOSING not to participate, is reportable.
No where did I say watching cutscenes is reportable. Good try though.

[Snorky]

Sigh. This is getting ridiculous having to really explain what is actually said rather than have you twist it into what you want to argue against.
So let me explain using a scenario.
We will say, a dps is new. Only the 1 dps. Reach the final boss. Dps is in cut scene, and only the dps. Tank pulls. Healer disagrees because they believe the dps should be able to partipate in the whole fight and the tank should have waited for cutscene to finish. So healer stays behind barrier, and tank dies. What the healer did, CHOOSING not to participate, is reportable.
No where did I say watching cutscenes is reportable. Good try though.

What you are explaining is nonsense, if the tank just made the decision without using the count down or waiting to see if all party members are ready what does that say about the tanks behavior? Do you not see that? It is ridiculous that you are defending bad behavior. So it's okay for the person pulling to dictate the responsibility of the other members but it's not okay to allow people to experience a cut scene and it's not okay for the other members of the party to allow them the chance to experience the whole fight because some dic pulled and couldn't control themselves for all of a minute. Yep thanks for your opinion talk about ridiculous.