Pulling During Cutscene

[Kolaina]

The irony of this thread
Op - people get nasty to push their self righteousness

Response - people get nasty pushing their self righteousness

[Psytic]

The irony of this thread
Op - people get nasty to push their self righteousness

Response - people get nasty pushing their self righteousness

Just an observation. Op and Kolaina have so little free time they can't give someone 60 seconds for a cutscene but they are in this thread everyday spending time debating their lack of time... there comes a point you have to come to the self realization that the real reason is that you just don't care about the experience of others. You don't have the time because you don't want to give it. You both certainly have the time to write multiple novel length posts because that's in your self interest. That's the definition of being self righteous. I don't really care personslly but its kind of hilarious people that frame an argument on lack of time seem to have an awful lot of it. Just be honest with your selves you don't care, you don't need anyone's validation. Do you feel guilty ? Why do you care so much what people think. Your on a little white knight crusade of your own defending the Op.

[Kolaina]

Just an observation. Op and Kolaina have so little free time they can't give someone 60 seconds for a cutscene but they are in this thread everyday spending time debating their lack of time... there comes a point you have to come to the self realization that the real reason is that you just don't care about the experience of others. You don't have the time because you don't want to give it. You both certainly have the time to write multiple novel length posts because that's in your self interest. That's the definition of being self righteous. I don't really care personslly but its kind of hilarious people that frame an argument on lack of time seem to have an awful lot of it. Just be honest with your selves you don't care, you don't need anyone's validation. Do you feel guilty ? Why do you care so much what people think. Your on a little white knight crusade of your own defending the Op.

Funnily enough I respond during cutscenes or between hades ex farm queues. I’m just on the side of pulling is no big deal and people don’t need to get as upset as they do over it

[Psytic]

Funnily enough I respond during cutscenes or between hades ex farm queues. I’m just on the side of pulling is no big deal and people don’t need to get as upset as they do over it

I mean I wait. I have had instances most recently one of the Nier dungeons where I ported into a locked instance after a cutscebe into a floor filling aoe and was instantly one shotted then raised again into another aoe since I was new to the fight and instantly died again and got called trash and had some guy advocating to vote kick me when it wasn't even my fault. But seriously you do you both of you. You don't need our blessing.

[Teno]

This thread reminds me of the lvl 50 final dungeons back in the day, on smaller scale however. It's a good thing the majority of people are considerate enough to wait instead of behaving like some here.

[Lenivy]

Not against the ToS, send me some ¥¥¥ to be your slave,otherwise get your pathetic narative from other threads and live by watching me solo the boss for 15 minutes.

[Sotaris]

Not against the ToS, send me some ¥¥¥ to be your slave,otherwise get your pathetic narative from other threads and live by watching me solo the boss for 15 minutes.

For someone to claim don't care for anyone here on forums says, you act fairly defensive when you got called out on your mentality.
I highlighted a few words you like to describe your fellow players with, cause you may disagree with waiting on a new player watching a <1 minute cutscene. Pretty disingenuous if you ask me.

If you don't want to wait that long, run the dungeons pre-made or don't bother or don't act surprised when people call it out.

Where are the ¥ You are supposed to pay me.
No ¥ no submission. Now watch me solo that pathetic wannabe bahamut copy paste.

Yen? Are you living in japan?
When was it established that I'm obligated to pay you anything? I don't recall appoving of said transaction.
Given how much you use pathetic you just look childish and probably should take a step back.

But hey, we all been edge teenagers at one point.

Nice derail and trolling attempt. Reported and blocked.

And suddenly you got thinskinned? That's an obvious meme and you know it. Don't throw rock in a glass house.

[EtherRose]

The ToS is so vague that both cutscene watchers and early pullers can be reported under the "Obstruction of Play". Which is just a laughing matter in itself. I'm curious on what others think about "Hunt Trains". Those revolve around the same matter - waiting and early pullers. Would the same parameters apply to this?

Usually hunt trains are very vocal and you have Linkshells for them. Area chat is filled with people looking for parties and a time of when the pull will happen as every body waits. You will have a few bad apples who pull early to troll, etc. But it's the same concept.

Most first-timers/cutscene watchers I have run into are very quiet and don't say anything at all. This signals to the group a green light to go. Especially if there is no response when asked. There have been a few threads and videos talking about the "Norm" of running dungeons. Which is tanks pull everything up until they can't and mow it all down to completely rushing MSQ roulette, etc.

So if a first-timer/cutscene watcher doesn't respond to questions or is quiet, people will just assume to pull or go because it's the norm these days for running dungeons. Is it wrong? Highly debatable as everyone should value each others time and play style. But that never happens.

[Sotaris]

The ToS is so vague that both cutscene watchers and early pullers can be reported under the "Obstruction of Play". Which is just a laughing matter in itself. I'm curious on what others think about "Hunt Trains". Those revolve around the same matter - waiting and early pullers. Would the same parameters apply to this?

I'm very against people happy triggers in hunts. Trains is managed and respected in my CWLS and Hunt discord. Maybe it's different in NA, from what I've been told NA is much more trigger happy than in EU in general.

Most people in EU is very against people not waiting on people early pull S ranks and recommend to wait 5-10 minute so people can get to the location.

[Titania40]

Most first-timers/cutscene watchers I have run into are very quiet and don't say anything at all. This signals to the group a green light to go. Especially if there is no response when asked. There have been a few threads and videos talking about the "Norm" of running dungeons. Which is tanks pull everything up until they can't and mow it all down to completely rushing MSQ roulette, etc.

So if a first-timer/cutscene watcher doesn't respond to questions or is quiet, people will just assume to pull or go because it's the norm these days for running dungeons. Is it wrong? Highly debatable as everyone should value each others time and play style. But that never happens.

And if they are on a console with no keyboard? How long do you wait before deciding they are being "silent and are ready" despite it saying they are watching a cutscene? The other day I literally tried six times to tell someone "no, I haven't done this before" when asked. And each time the PS4's UI would exit out of the on-screen keyboard without actually having the message I typed out showing. I did everything like you're suppose to, but it just wasn't letting me send a message. Hell, I'd barely managed to get it to let me say "hi" when we started the dungeon.