Pulling During Cutscene

[MaxCarnage]

I want to preface this by stating that although I am speaking from experience, I am not speaking as the puller, simply as a bystander who has defended pulling during cutscene before.

I don’t understand why this is an issue. I’m sorry, I don’t. And no, I’m not naïve, either. I want to know, though, what you think of it.

As it stands, my thoughts are this:

Pulling during cutscene doesn’t matter. At all. It does not kick the watcher out of cutscene, and it’s not like they miss any important mechanics, either. Because one [1] they’re either going to run the content at hand again, so they will be able to see the mechanic they missed, or two [2] they’re never going to run that content again. So again, why does it matter?

And then you have the “good guys”, let’s call them. The people who will get absolutely vitriolic with you because how dare you be impatient and not wait for the cutscene watcher. It doesn’t matter if you’ve run this content a million times. It doesn’t matter how old it may be. The fact of the matter is you pulled during a cutscene and therefore you are the worst human being alive and deserve to be shunned by the rest of the ~community~.

I’m not even being hyberbolic, here. I have seen people call out pullers by name and try and get everyone else to attack them as well. But it’s okay, because these people are the heroes and the puller is the villain! Pay no mind to the harassment and threats they are dishing out because they’re doing it to “defend” a new person. I have seen people call pullers “toxic trash”, spewing expletives about how awful a person they are, trying to rally the other members of the alliance to blacklist and report. Like, hello? How is that okay? You may not agree with pulling during cutscene, but to verbally attack someone who does is not and never will be okay.

I have mentioned before that not everyone has all the time in the world to wait for everyone to watch every cutscene. And in response, I had people telling me that “if [my] time is so important, maybe [I] shouldn’t play.” Or, here’s a thought, because my free time is so limited, I want to actually, y’know... enjoy it?

The argument is always along the lines of pulling during cutscene “ruins” players experiences. Well, on the other side of that, maybe waiting for cutscene for every single piece of content, and getting reemed out by the general public if you don’t conform also ruins players’ experiences. Is it not hypocritical to become the toxic person you’re claiming the puller to be? How does that make you the hero?

This is my first forum post. But I am not stranger to the forums, I do expect to be attacked by these same “good guys” I’m talking about. But I would like to hear your thoughts.

[znushu]

I don’t understand why this is an issue.

it's because it's nice too let them finish the Cutscene first before you pull

[Vahlnir]

It is usually a common courtesy to let others finish their cutscenes before pulling anything. That is why it's an issue. When you are in a group setting, the world stops revolving around you.

[Snorky]

So you don't want to hear people's opinions you just want people to agree with you? Because that is what you are expressing trying to disparage anyone who disagrees with you before they even express a opinion. So here goes a good guy saying it's a common courtsey to wait for all party members to be ready and you should schedule your time better. Full stop.

It is wrong to berate or harass someone for doing it but it should be said hey it's bad form to pull while in a cut scene.

[Kolaina]

it's because it's nice too let them finish the Cutscene first before you pull

Nice to respond to the puller with vitriol? I don’t believe you grasped what the op was saying. It’s not about the pull itself. It’s about the hypocritical response to the puller. The whole attack them, be mean to them, because they ‘werent nice’ by pulling.

[Vahlnir]

Nice to respond to the puller with vitriol? I don’t believe you grasped what the op was saying. It’s not about the pull itself. It’s about the hypocritical response to the puller. The whole attack them, be mean to them, because they ‘werent nice’ by pulling.

It was obviously wrong to "attack" them if that is indeed what happened, but the OP also didn't seem to understand why it was a problem to begin with and seems to be supporting it.

[Karthunk]

Pulling during a cutscene is bad form. Just give the player the 20 or so seconds required for them to finish watching the cutscene.

[BaconBits]

It's more of a common courtesy thing to not pull while people are still in cutscenes, last thing anyone wants to happen is to come out of the cutscene, teleport in and immediately get killed by a wave of mechanics.

Now if everyone's just standing around and clearly not in cutscenes, and nobody has pulled yet, I'm charging in. Doesn't matter if I'm a tank, healer, or dps, I don't want to stand around doing nothing for too long.

[Kolaina]

It was obviously wrong to "attack" them if that is indeed what happened, but the OP also didn't seem to understand why it was a problem to begin with and seems to be supporting it.

I’ve seen these white knights go on the attack myself. This community has an awful problem with the so called ‘good guys’ being awful people when trying to wear their capes. Between verbal abuse, threatening to report for the sake of an attempted ban, or even suggesting to intentionally wipe a raid so the cut scene watcher can experience that first raid wide mechanic. Is this good form?
This community claims to be so amazing, but it shows so much hostility. I already see it in this thread from Snork. I’m sure others will come

[MaxCarnage]

So you don't want to hear people's opinions you just want people to agree with you? Because that is what you are expressing trying to disparage anyone who disagrees with you before they even express a opinion. So here goes a good guy saying it's a common courtsey to wait for all party members to be ready and you should schedule your time better. Full stop.

I never said anyone who disagrees with me is inherently bad, therefore I am not shutting down any line of conversation. I said the same people who get vitriolic in alliance will comment here with the same attitude. Reading comprehension. I guess everyone has their strawmans moment, though.

Secondly, I have a full time job. I work 48 hours a week, not including travel time. But yes, let me schedule my time better, how dare I...