Where are the ¥ You are supposed to pay me.For someone to claim don't care for anyone here on forums says, you act fairly defensive when you got called out on your mentality.
I highlighted a few words you like to describe your fellow players with, cause you may disagree with waiting on a new player watching a <1 minute cutscene. Pretty disingenuous if you ask me.
If you don't want to wait that long, run the dungeons pre-made or don't bother or don't act surprised when people call it out.
No ¥ no submission. Now watch me solo that pathetic wannabe bahamut copy paste.




Me too, Erenville, me too
While I’m perfectly comfortable to say I’m new to the game/dungeon/whatever to signal I may do dumb stuff and will need some time here and there, I fully understand those who remain quiet about it. In so many games it’s a reason to get kicked from the group or invite abuse. In that sense I understand those who prefer to be quiet and just try their best, in the hope noone will notice. It’s a sad state of affairs that players can be so fearful of other players, but there are logical explanations for it unfortunately. Personally I’d suggest that when you see a sprout, just assume they’re new to whatever you are doing until you notice they are not.
I mean, I’m sorry to hear that. I’ve seen people tank the floor frequently in there and most was said is maybe learn to dodge. Not worth kickin over.I mean I wait. I have had instances most recently one of the Nier dungeons where I ported into a locked instance after a cutscebe into a floor filling aoe and was instantly one shotted then raised again into another aoe since I was new to the fight and instantly died again and got called trash and had some guy advocating to vote kick me when it wasn't even my fault. But seriously you do you both of you. You don't need our blessing.



Ugh. I'm disappointed in myself tonight. Got Toto-Rak in Roulette, with a first-timer. We get to the end boss, and the tank rushes in while the newbie is still in their cutscene. I wanted to wait, and I should have said something. But instead, I caved and went on in, thinking "It's not that big of a deal, they will just join us half-way through."
Nope. Turns out I really underestimated how quickly the boss would die, even with only one DPS. And to top it all off, the tank flippantly remarks to the first-timer at the end: "You can watch cutscenes at the inn." Wow. That is so not the point.
Moral of the story: if any of you care about supporting sprouts and helping them to enjoy their journey through the MSQ, don't be weak like I was tonight. Stand with them. Don't validate and reward selfish behaviour.




Interestingly enough it's actually very possible for CS watcher to die in Toto-rak last boss (though I don't know what exactly triggers their deaths). I remember it was a run when I queued as a healer to help my 2 DPS newcomer who's doing their MSQ playthrough. That tank just facepulled while the two were watching CS from the top of the ledge at boss room entrance. Just when the "Darkness" weather ensues, those two suddenly drops dead while still in CS. This wasn't the first time I witnessed it so I just drop "That's what happen when one doesn't wait for CS." in party chat in hoping to see the tank owning their a$$hat behavior. (spoiler: they didn't. it's one of those muted tanks.)Ugh. I'm disappointed in myself tonight. Got Toto-Rak in Roulette, with a first-timer. We get to the end boss, and the tank rushes in while the newbie is still in their cutscene. I wanted to wait, and I should have said something. But instead, I caved and went on in, thinking "It's not that big of a deal, they will just join us half-way through."
Nope. Turns out I really underestimated how quickly the boss would die, even with only one DPS. And to top it all off, the tank flippantly remarks to the first-timer at the end: "You can watch cutscenes at the inn." Wow. That is so not the point.
Moral of the story: if any of you care about supporting sprouts and helping them to enjoy their journey through the MSQ, don't be weak like I was tonight. Stand with them. Don't validate and reward selfish behaviour.
That occasion upsets both of my newcomer friends.


People don't always want to wait when it comes to their 40th run for many reasons.
You're on your first run, but others have been waiting for days to get their stuff/token of the week, or for others to get the coins from each raid alliance to upgrade stuff. This is even more present now as the limitation is removed.
Sure it's a courtesy, but impatience is a big weight in the balance between waiting or not.



So someone's 40th run takes precedence over someone's first time because they have to get a token they got 39 weeks in a row? Wow, as I said before then lengths which people will go to, to make excuses for bad behavior. If you are using the duty roulette you are being compensated with extra tokens having a sprout in your party. That compensation is for allowing them to experience the dungeon in its entirety. I wish they would make all cut scenes unskipable because of these selfish attitudes.People don't always want to wait when it comes to their 40th run for many reasons.
You're on your first run, but others have been waiting for days to get their stuff/token of the week, or for others to get the coins from each raid alliance to upgrade stuff. This is even more present now as the limitation is removed.
Sure it's a courtesy, but impatience is a big weight in the balance between waiting or not.
Enjoy Life you only get one.


It's only like what, 5 minutes lost maybe total per one raid run for cutscenes? The only cutscene usually only at the end boss of each raid run. I don't think its even 5 minutes. Maybe 2 minutes top. Or even just 1 minute. Like even if you do the raid 10 TIMES to get coins or whatever and EACH of the raids you're doing there are new people (if), it's ONLY 10 MINUTES or at most 20 minutes of waiting!People don't always want to wait when it comes to their 40th run for many reasons.
You're on your first run, but others have been waiting for days to get their stuff/token of the week, or for others to get the coins from each raid alliance to upgrade stuff. This is even more present now as the limitation is removed.
Sure it's a courtesy, but impatience is a big weight in the balance between waiting or not.
Like Holy Shit, is it such a BIG deal to wait/lose 10 minutes of your life as a show of courtesy and empathy to others?
Last edited by LaughingBanana; 08-20-2021 at 05:44 PM.
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