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  1. #431
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    This game's endgame IS glamour and mounts. So the fact they keep adding mounts that are associated with existing raid/duty lore as mogstation items IS the equivalent of freemium games selling p2w benefits.
    Honestly, as a side note: I get glamour being endgame... but why mounts? You can't even get on mounts in cities, which is where most people hang out. If anything minions seem more endgame to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSash View Post
    You don't "have to pay $30 for a mount". Just don't buy the mount. Stop calling people white knights or sheep. wtf is wrong with you people? Just voice your complaints and quit attacking other people that don't agree with you.
    i didnt call anyone especifically but the comunity as a whole, if you think thats atacking you need to see what a real debate is like.
    of course i will not buy this monstrousity and nighter should anyone else.

    Ignoring the problems will not make it go away,
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  3. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    like i said, becouse of people with actitud such as this we would still be on ffx1.0.

    you are free to do whatever you like im free to complaint for whatever i feel like,
    Business and money over player wants is a road you do not want to take, i understood completly your point but i dont agree with you .
    theres a diference in not understanding your point and another one taking your point as completly invalid.

    Following the " its a company to make money" line is what have brought down many many other games i loved.
    The one who wants to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend there is not a problem is clearly not me.
    This isn't true at all. This is like the most false equivalence argument I have seen. FFXIV 1.0 is COMPLETELY different situation than this. I say this as one of the people that quit 1.0 and bought the cruise chaser mount, so there is definitely a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    i didnt call anyone especifically but the comunity as a whole, if you think thats atacking you need to see what a real debate is like.
    of course i will not buy this monstrousity and nighter should anyone else.

    Ignoring the problems will not make it go away,
    I very much intend to buy it once I have payed for my preorder. Why? Because I want the mount and I don't give a rat's patootie whether anyone thinks "It's a cash grab for a mount that should have been available in game" or not. It is a mount I want, and it is a mount I don't have to grind a thousand hours or grind PVP [that I suck at and will never be top 100] to get
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  5. #435
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    This game's endgame IS glamour and mounts. So the fact they keep adding mounts that are associated with existing raid/duty lore as mogstation items IS the equivalent of freemium games selling p2w benefits.
    theres no p2w in that mount, you dont run faster dont get stats buff or anything, its just a skin. I see no problem in buying mounts, no matter how it looks, the money we put there will be used to improve the game.
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    Store mounts are not great but what takes the sting off is there's no square token and the game is good.
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  7. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    The games "endgame" is what you want it to be.
    This! Endgame its what value your time and fun. Time and fun that vary from players to players, subjective value.

    Actualy, say that endgame its so crazy awesome its funny, for a game that dont have an end.
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    Last edited by Fellgon; 08-15-2021 at 08:32 AM.

  8. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverQuest View Post
    Store mounts are not great but what takes the sting off is there's no square token and the game is good.
    Yet. But I'm sure there will be plenty of people coming to its defense when it does arrive, as seen in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    Yet. But I'm sure there will be plenty of people coming to its defense when it does arrive, as seen in this thread.
    Considering WoW all but runs on the WoW token nowadays and I have seen the damage that happened over time...no, I'd probably draw my line in the sand there.
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  10. #440
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSash View Post
    This isn't true at all. This is like the most false equivalence argument I have seen. FFXIV 1.0 is COMPLETELY different situation than this. I say this as one of the people that quit 1.0 and bought the cruise chaser mount, so there is definitely a difference.
    diferent acording to who.To you?
    were you on ffx1 forums arguing with the white knights who kept saying game was fine?No you were not.
    Do you think this is new to me seen everyone praising the previous game director for the " excelent graphics " while game was on such a poor state before, and absolutly everyone on the forums defending them?

    Couse i have seen this trend and i for one dont like it.

    It starts slow, and ill say it now , i dont like it and nighter should you ( if you love the game and dont want it to be a p2W)
    if you dont care about the game, then just ignore it.
    it does not affects you, but some people are passionate about the MMOS we play and dont want to see it go to shit.
    if you think " 1 mount is ok" you clearly dont understand were this is going so its pointless to try to explain were this is leading.
    Do you think yoshiP was "welcomed with open arms on FFX 1.0?"do you even know how that whent down?
    Keep defending this stuff, keep allowing companies to do whatever they want.when game keep throwing more and more stuff into swipe credit card to win on a game were glam and mounts/collections are end game,
    We will see were this leads the game.
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