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    Quote Originally Posted by Icycrits View Post
    Yet. But I'm sure there will be plenty of people coming to its defense when it does arrive, as seen in this thread.
    I hope it never comes, or square will get same fate as blizzard. By the way, why journalist thinks that square must copy everything of blizz? I saw a video of a reporter asking yoshi P about 1.0 launch in comparison of wow classic...and thought "we dont need follow blizz company on everything" (wen SDB was about to launch)

    its been long wow stopped seen as a game and become a "religion" (no ofence)
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    Lets just buy everything. With irl money. Pay a sub buy an expansion. And give them also a bonus for adding more mog stations stuff.

    Who cares about playing the game and earning stuff anymore when this comunity wants to buy a titan mount for 70$.

    Im slowly but steadily loosing faith. Im happy that i have friends to play with. I fear by the time that stops, as it always do eventually,I might be looking for the next game were i dont have to buy in game items with $$( even if the subacription fee is 100$ a month)after 11 year of great times and enjoyment.

    This is not a community i rly feel a part of anymore.

    I think most of you would be absolutly fine if there were lot boxes on mogstation by the comments of the community on this treads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    Lets just buy everything. With irl money. Pay a sub buy an expansion. And give them also a bonus for adding more mog stations stuff.

    Who cares about playing the game and earning stuff anymore when this comunity wants to buy a titan mount for 70$.

    Im slowly but steadily loosing faith. Im happy that i have friends to play with. I fear by the time that stops, as it always do eventually,I might be looking for the next game were i dont have to buy in game items with $$( even if the subacription fee is 100$ a month)after 11 year of great times and enjoyment.

    This is mot a community i rly feel a part of anymore.

    I think most of you would be absolutly fine if there were lot boxes on mogstation by the comments of the community on this treads.

    I mean I still have not seen a reason why it should not be.


    Because you paid for expansion. So you going to ignore all the content you get when you first buy an expansion?
    Because you pay for a sub? Are you going to ignore the content updates you get cause of that sub?


    Here is the thing. If the quality of the game goes down to point where it is unfun, and they add cash shop items more than content. Than I will be with you all upset. Right now that time is not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I mean I still have not seen a reason why it should not be.


    Because you paid for expansion. So you going to ignore all the content you get when you first buy an expansion?
    Because you pay for a sub? Are you going to ignore the content updates you get cause of that sub?


    Here is the thing. If the quality of the game goes down to point where it is unfun, and they add cash shop items more than content. Than I will be with you all upset. Right now that time is not now.
    I dont understand what you mean by expansions talk, im talking about gaining stuff in game and not with a credit card.
    Who said i ignore any content, i done (almost) everything have to offer to many times by now.your missing my point.
    When most of the community seems to be fine with it and im clearly( if if it wasnt cool up till now) not cool with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Here is the thing. If the quality of the game goes down to point where it is unfun, and they add cash shop items more than content. Than I will be with you all upset. Right now that time is not now.
    Agreed! At least for me square is very faaaar from making same decisions like blizz or EA, very far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    I think most of you would be absolutly fine if there were lot boxes on mogstation by the comments of the community on this treads.
    Or maybe, just maybe, there are those of us who see this for what is really is: Not a big deal. I don't think I've seen anyone ask for loot boxes either. Then there's people like yourself using a slippery slope fallacy over the addition of things to the cash shop which they have been adding to for years and in a fair manner and not ONCE have they overstepped. They are not overstepping here either. Like I said earlier, this thread (and a couple others) are just an extreme overreaction to something so...insignificant to the game at large. By your logic, the game's been going downhill since ARR, which would be illogical, yes? And there are many, many much cooler mounts obtainable in game only in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Or maybe, just maybe, there are those of us who see this for what is really is: Not a big deal.
    its a massive deal. Thats the reality of it.
    There is now more youtubers too, and more diversity of voices. You won't slide the microtransactions of FFXIV for: "a good necesity" anymore.


    It's what it is, microtransactions, content that could be in game but otherwise is behind a paywall. A lot of new players are not happy seeing this. Some thought this wasn't the case here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    its a massive deal. Thats the reality of it.
    There is now more youtubers too, and more diversity of voices. You won't slide the microtransactions of FFXIV for: "a good necesity" anymore.


    It's what it is, microtransactions, content that could be in game but otherwise is behind a paywall. A lot of new players are not happy seeing this. Some thought this wasn't the case here.
    Mogstation items are created for the Mogstation only. There is an entirely different team for that which has no bearing on what does or doesn't get added to be obtained in game. What gets added to the Mogstation (brand new items at least) were never going to be "free". They would have simply gone without existing. I'm aware that it doesn't fit peoples' agenda in this thread, but it's still an important fact that most are overlooking because it's an inconvenient truth in a false narrative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    the game is fine, the aceptance of the comunity over what is coming down the line is not.
    thats the point u fail to se to come across.
    have you missed the other post for people asking for mogstation mounts and items for 70€ or are we just going for personal atacks now?
    I'm not personally attacking you. I'm disagreeing with your stance, and pointing out where the holes are in your point of view. I'm doing the same with others as well, which means whatever you think it is isn't personal.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-15-2021 at 10:23 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Mogstation items are created for the Mogstation only. There is an entirely different team for that which has no bearing on what does or doesn't get added to be obtained in game. What gets added to the Mogstation (brand new items at least) were never going to be "free". They would have simply gone without existing. I'm aware that it doesn't fit peoples' agenda in this thread, but it's still an important fact that most are overlooking because it's an inconvenient truth in a false narrative.
    Explain me please how something that CAN BE in game wouldn't be able so unless you give the 3 digits behind your card.
    The only agenda here is that some people are defending abusive microtransactions: that doesn't transalate on a proper service to begin with it.

    Please stop pushing your zealous fanboyism of SE being able of no evil, no able of greedy corporative practicess.


    The Cruise Chaser could be dropped in Sastacha if they wanted. Or be free for all new accounts if they wanted to. There is no: "It can exist only through mogstation". Lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Mogstation items are created for the Mogstation only. There is an entirely different team for that which has no bearing on what does or doesn't get added to be obtained in game. What gets added to the Mogstation (brand new items at least) were never going to be "free". They would have simply gone without existing. I'm aware that it doesn't fit peoples' agenda in this thread, but it's still an important fact that most are overlooking because it's an inconvenient truth in a false narrative.



    I'm not personally attacking you. I'm disagreeing with your stance, and pointing out where the holes are in your point of view. I'm doing the same with others as well, which means whatever you think it is isn't personal.



    so you are ok if they add a titan car mount only obtainable by mogstation if i understand your position correctly ?
    am i correct assuming that?Becouse there is clearly a market for it.

    just so we are clear on were we both stand on the spectrum
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    Last edited by Zkieve; 08-15-2021 at 10:37 AM.

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