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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Or maybe, just maybe, there are those of us who see this for what is really is: Not a big deal. I don't think I've seen anyone ask for loot boxes either. Then there's people like yourself using a slippery slope fallacy over the addition of things to the cash shop which they have been adding to for years and in a fair manner and not ONCE have they overstepped. They are not overstepping here either. Like I said earlier, this thread (and a couple others) are just an extreme overreaction to something so...insignificant to the game at large. By your logic, the game's been going downhill since ARR, which would be illogical, yes? And there are many, many much cooler mounts obtainable in game only in my opinion.
    the game is fine, the aceptance of the comunity over what is coming down the line is not.
    thats the point u fail to see to come across.
    have you missed the other post for people asking for mogstation mounts and items for 70€ or are we just going for personal atacks now?
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    It's not like it isn't clear what you are signing up for.

    I will never understand how people can define their joy of a game over some silly mounts. The game offers so much content but the silly store mount is the last straw for you? Heck your love for this game has to be really really great.

    Dunno what is so wrong about supporting the company that brings us joy and good memories and not being a nihilistic emo kid about it. Just see it as a tip you can give them with getting something back.

    But heck, if a stupid mount makes a game so bad for you fellas, i won't cry about you leaving. I will in fact buy two mounts next time and give one away to make up for your sad lost sub fee. Cause i can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    It's not like it isn't clear what you are signing up for.

    I will never understand how people can define their joy of a game over some silly mounts. The game offers so much content but the silly store mount is the last straw for you? Heck your love for this game has to be really really great.

    Dunno what is so wrong about supporting the company that brings us joy and good memories and not being a nihilistic emo kid about it. Just see it as a tip you can give them with getting something back.

    But heck, if a stupid mount makes a game so bad for you fellas, i won't cry about you leaving. I will in fact buy two mounts next time and give one away to make up for your sad lost sub fee. Cause i can.
    you keep atacking me personally when i have not even once atacked you ranaku, im gonna ignore everything you have to say until u make some sence.
    you missed the part aparently when i said i have bought stuff and can perfectly afford every single item on the mog station if iwish it to, but instead of making an argument you ( since ur first post) decide to call me nihilist and now talk me off,
    you are the definition of i have lost an argument so i will atack the person instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    you keep atacking me personally when i have not even once atacked you ranaku, im gonna ignore everything you have to say until u make some sence.
    I mean you did read it obviously, it seems. Try to be less sad about stuff and get yourself some friends to have fun with. Not saying you don't have friends (just grab some of yours and play with them), just try to have more fun instead of crying all over the forums. The world isn't ending, well Hydaelyn is burning basically but the RL world isn't. People will still have fun in the future, you maybe too, maybe don't define your joy over a mount and rather over the people you meet along the way.

    That said i am close to my daily post limit so i am out of here anyways!
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-15-2021 at 10:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    I mean you did read it obviously, it seems. Try to be less sad about stuff and get yourself some friends to have fun with. Not saying you don't have friends (just grab some of yours and play with them), just try to have more fun instead of crying all over the forums. The world isn't ending, well Hydaelyn is burning basically but the RL world isn't. People will still have fun in the future, you maybe too, maybe don't define your joy over a mount and rather over the people you meet along the way.

    That said i am close to my daily post limit so i am out of here anyways!
    posting disconfort over something i dont like in a game is a sign of not having friends, u sir are the definition of a white knight.And yes now i am atacking you personally.
    I will complaint everytime i dont like something over a game i play. you can debate, insult me, or run couse you are out of post, you have made clear your opinion have cero value here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    It's not like it isn't clear what you are signing up for.

    I will never understand how people can define their joy of a game over some silly mounts. The game offers so much content but the silly store mount is the last straw for you? Heck your love for this game has to be really really great.

    Dunno what is so wrong about supporting the company that brings us joy and good memories and not being a nihilistic emo kid about it. Just see it as a tip you can give them with getting something back.

    But heck, if a stupid mount makes a game so bad for you fellas, i won't cry about you leaving. I will in fact buy two mounts next time and give one away to make up for your sad lost sub fee. Cause i can.
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.
    I actually 100% agree with you there. It's a personal choice tho if the stuff we got is worth a tip. We got bozja and 3 raids basically in there for free and a extra ex trial. That is much more content that eureka brought us and without the light grind from the past expansions people hated.

    But yes, there could be more content. I miss the deepdungeons. And the second dungeon besides every story dungeon we got in the past. We still got no new pvp weapons nor a second shb pvp set. I understand that corona hit them too and i hope now that the pandemic is slowly over they own up to it in endwalker.

    But i tell all people the same story. I know how SE was before XIV. I rather shove all my money into their mouth instead of seeing SE again as it was, XIV is the only reason this company is still breathing and i rather see them making money and living on than them dying again and butchering other franchises like Deus EX.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    posting disconfort over something i dont like in a game is a sign of not having friends, u sir are the definition of a white knight.And yes now i am atacking you personally.
    I will complaint everytime i dont like something over a game i play. you can debate, insult me, or run couse you are out of post, you have made clear your opinion have cero value here.
    What i was telling you is to take some of your friends and have a fun time instead of drowning your mood in this topic. You seem to be really down about this topic and i feel with you. I didn't said you don't have friends, not at all. What i meant is, take the ones which are close to you and have a fun time and don't beat yourself down about this topic so much.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-15-2021 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.

    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
    You know what is funny? GW2, a game that's revenue is entirely based off box price, and a cash shop, has higher quality outfits, at a quarter of the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
    Sub price may have stayed the same but the sub sales have gone up increasingly to more than make up for it. It’s common sense. Especially when it’s not like they’ve done anything like try to improve the engine or anything of that nature.
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