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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie_ View Post
    i agree that the work required to allow arbitrary pronouns would be too much to ask of the development team, however being able to choose between the currently existing male/female dialogue options separate from your character's sex would be much more reasonable, and in fact has already been implemented in a third-party plugin to the game (as i mentioned in my previous comment).
    Then use the plugin, what's the problem? You can also ask your friends to address you however you like.
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    Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

    Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

    Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.
    Go chill, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    Then use the plugin, what's the problem? You can also ask your friends to address you however you like.
    that is certainly the solution for the time being for people who are playing on pc and are willing to break the terms of service. i think this functionality should also be available for people playing on console and pc players who do not wish to break the terms of service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    Go chill, dude.
    An excellent, well thought out response, well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    An excellent, well thought out response, well done
    Truly, a response worth the comment it was meant for.
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    mr catboy, it's a videogame, made by a studio from a very conservative country, none the less
    I hope you're not just a slacktivist like most of the twittersphere and actually try to change things for the better for them when it comes to doing stuff in your country, i.e. protests, petitions and voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie_ View Post
    unfortunately trans people are frequently not allowed to be who they are in real life, and that's why this feature should be added, so that they can at least be themselves in a video game.
    but isn't that exactly what miracle diva is saying? a ftm trans person can play as any of the male characters, an mtf as the female ones
    they can be what they want to be already, why do they want to be represented by a thing that many trans people struggle and have problems with, namely getting misgendered? anectodal evidence coming up, but the few trans people I know that play XIV absolutely hate that preferred pronouns plugin because of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie_ View Post
    that is certainly the solution for the time being for people who are playing on pc and are willing to break the terms of service. i think this functionality should also be available for people playing on console and pc players who do not wish to break the terms of service.
    If one is not willing to break the ToS to get the experience they want then clearly they do not want it that bad. Sometimes you got to break the rules to get what you want. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    Firstly that wouldn't be irony it would be hypocrisy, Secondly, and I cannot stress this enough, a persons gender Identify is NOT political just because politicians believe they have the right to discuss it and decide what rights people can and can't have does not make it political, is being black Political? is being a woman political?

    Secondly you do NOT get to disagree about this, again just like you don't get to disagree with equal rights for women, or black people or gay people etc. Trans people exist and they deserve equal representation if you disagree with that statement are an awful person there is no debate around that.
    Whoa whoa whoa, we Black people are no shield for anyone.
    Anyone can be the 200 gender denominations; very different from being the direct children of the creator, made in his image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie_ View Post
    unfortunately trans people are frequently not allowed to be who they are in real life, and that's why this feature should be added, so that they can at least be themselves in a video game.
    Nah. Keep it in the real world. There's nothing that needs to be added that regular game role play won't solve. It doesn't need to go beyond that.
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