Pronouns???

[Lenivy]

Well then I can only assume it's because the voting form was too complex for you

Calm your horses wannabe martyr. Onyly thing you achived thus far in here is to make more people dislike you and "virtues" u stand for.

[Andy_T93]

Calm your horses wannabe martyr. Onyly thing you achived thus far in here is to make more people dislike you and "virtues" u stand for.

As surprising as this may seem, being liked by people who are actively trying to create a case against the inclusion of an already marginalised group of people isn't a primary concern of mine.

[Theodric]

I think that there is no obligation for development teams or consumers to bend over backwards and entertain every single request ever made in the name of 'representation'.

I think a lot of people forget that this is a video game. It's a real shame that such passion and outrage is so rarely directed at actual content.

[Lenivy]

As surprising as this may seem, being liked by people who are actively trying to create a case against the inclusion of an already marginalised group of people isn't a primary concern of mine.

I hope neutrals do not interest You as well, as You most likely managed to convince quite a bit of them, including myself, to dislike You and Your cause quite much after that tyrade of Yours.

[Iscah]

As surprising as this may seem, being liked by people who are actively trying to create a case against the inclusion of an already marginalised group of people isn't a primary concern of mine.

I am broadly on your side of the issue, and I think you're sabotaging your own argument by turning it into an insult war.

If you want to look like the rational side of a debate, be better than the other side.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I think that there is no obligation for development teams or consumers to bend over backwards and entertain every single request ever made in the name of 'representation'.

I think a lot of people forget that this is a video game. It's a real shame that such passion and outrage is so rarely directed at actual content.

If this happened we would probably actually see an upgrade in content rather than a downgrade. People really do put their attention in all the wrong areas

[greasy]

Seeking representation is not setting an agenda. Please stop equating the two.

I would love for the game to allow you to select pronouns separately from your body type. I also realize this may be very difficult to implement on a design level, as many others have pointed out. What would be more difficult is adding a third pronoun option outside of m/f, such as they/them, as they would need to go back and modify not only quest dialogue but re-record or edit voice lines. But if one was able to select pronouns and body type separately perhaps the game could refer to the pronoun selection instead of body type which seems like a much easier feat. But I'm not a game dev! This is just all about thinking about what is possible. And it's just ideas!

Trans rights are human rights

thx

[Bright-Flower]

Seeking representation is not setting an agenda. Please stop equating the two.

I would love for the game to allow you to select pronouns separately from your body type. I also realize this may be very difficult to implement on a design level, as many others have pointed out. What would be more difficult is adding a third pronoun option outside of m/f, such as they/them, as they would need to go back and modify not only quest dialogue but re-record or edit voice lines. But if one was able to select pronouns and body type separately perhaps the game could refer to the pronoun selection instead of body type which seems like a much easier feat. But I'm not a game dev! This is just all about thinking about what is possible. And it's just ideas!

Trans rights are human rights

thx

It's hard to say since obviously I'm not privy to the game's code, but detaching the pronouns from the gender selected at character creation might not be something that could be easily slapped on. Sometimes things that seem like they'd be easy from an outside perspective are actually not quick and easy changes to make in the code you have to work with.

It'd be nice to have but I don't see it happening for FFXIV. Though if they do another MMO or game in general with a character creator it'd be a nice option to have and wouldn't be tricky to implement if they accounted for it at the start of development.

[KizuyaKatogami]

So im a bit confused. People want their pronouns respected but, why dont they just play as the gender they wish to be recognized as? This seems like it would solve the problem, especially if thats how they see themselves irl.

Edit:This is a genuine question btw. I'd love for some of the people advocating for this to explain it to me cuz i really dont understand.

[lezard21]

So im a bit confused. People want their pronouns respected but, why dont they just play as the gender they wish to be recognized as? This seems like it would solve the problem, especially if thats how they see themselves irl.

Edit:This is a genuine question btw. I'd love for some of the people advocating for this to explain it to me cuz i really dont understand.

There is no logic to it don't bother to try to understand it, it's just an omegawoke thing.