The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

[KizuyaKatogami]

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My only problem personally with male viera atm is the horrible posture. I genuinely don’t understand how that even made it out of development. Every single glam looks horrible on them from the side and even partially the front and i hope it’s something they address before release otherwise it’s gonna be disappointing. In regards to the design change, it was a small issue with a small fix but there’s numerous of those in game that players have asked for and fell on deaf ears. Like that post i put said, people bringing up alphascape v3. Again though i’m really curious how many people with the actual phobia were actually affected by it, because again the main poster who created the thread didn’t even have it, and this is a common trend nowadays. People who don’t actually fall under whatever the category is and making things a bigger problem than they are.

[Yencat]

My only problem personally with male viera atm is the horrible posture. I genuinely don’t understand how that even made it out of development. Every single glam looks horrible on them from the side and even partially the front and i hope it’s something they address before release otherwise it’s gonna be disappointing. In regards to the design change, it was a small issue with a small fix but there’s numerous of those in game that players have asked for and fell on deaf ears. Like that post i put said, people bringing up alphascape v3. Again though i’m really curious how many people with the actual phobia were actually affected by it, because again the main poster who created the thread didn’t even have it, and this is a common trend nowadays. People who don’t actually fall under whatever the category is and making things a bigger problem than they are.

I agree, the default posture causes nasty stretching with certain armor and hopefully it looks better with a different /cpose.

We can keep going back and forth about why they did <X> and not <Y> but I don't have the answers either, they did one thing based on feedback and didn't do another despite feedback, I guess we can put to rest the worries they'll start catering to every whim of the playerbase at least?

Accusations of them favoring JP over other regions have been around for as long as I can remember, and whether or not that's true I'm personally not super keen on getting all that worked up over it because I have issues with neither the original Sage icon nor Alphascape and can't and don't want to speak for how big of an issue it is for others.

[Mimilu]

I meant moreso with the fact there’s an apocalypse going on but we have a sparkly eyed catboy at every turn.

I would imagine any apocalypse you're involved with is going to have a sparkly-eyed catboy in it considering you are one. >w>

[KizuyaKatogami]

I would imagine any apocalypse you're involved with is going to have a sparkly-eyed catboy in it considering you are one. >w>

I don’t have sparkly eyes, nor do i fanboy over every single npc during it. Don’t worry though that’s changing in EW when i become a bunnyboi

[Aniise]

I don't really mind the change, the Icon looks okay imo. But the reason it WAS changed is a bit...meh.

As many others have pointed out, there are so many patterns with holes in the game (just take the Leatherworker Icon for example), and nobody ever complained. /shrug
People are saying it's nice that the devs listened to the needs of those who are affected by the phobia, and I WOULD like to agree, however...it's the reactions to this that leave a bitter taste in my mouth. For example, people on Twitter already started a witchhunt because of a lighthearted joke one specific player made about the icon change. Calling them insensitive, pressuring them into making an official apology and deleting the joke etc...which wasn't even a bad one in my opinion.

It's things like that that make me shudder a bit. Demanding changes and chastise people who don't share your opinion.. Doesn't paint those people in the best light. :/

[Averax]

I don't really mind the change, the Icon looks okay imo. But the reason it WAS changed is a bit...meh.

As many others have pointed out, there are so many patterns with holes in the game (just take the Leatherworker Icon for example), and nobody ever complained. /shrug
People are saying it's nice that the devs listened to the needs of those who are affected by the phobia, and I WOULD like to agree, however...it's the reactions to this that leave a bitter taste in my mouth. For example, people on Twitter already started a witchhunt because of a lighthearted joke one specific player made about the icon change. Calling them insensitive, pressuring them into making an official apology and deleting the joke etc...which wasn't even a bad one in my opinion.

It's things like that that make me shudder a bit. Demanding changes and chastise people who don't share your opinion.. Doesn't paint those people in the best light. :/

*sigh* The twitter of today is the tumblr of yesterday....except with less anonymity.

[Kolsykol]

I am honestly thinking that the reason why might've been a sort of excuse because they weren't happy themselves.
Or they just saw negativity surrounding it and it was one of the reasons they decided to just use.

It really makes no sense.
Or maybe it was someone with a very extreme case of it at the office who brought it up too, I dunno.
I do agree that the reason behind it is silly especially in such a mild case where I have a hard time seeing people actually genuinely having issues with it.
More likely the people bringing up that phobia don't even have it, just like how the loudest voices complaining about things tend to be people complaining on behalf of others or a group they don't even belong to.
And then on platforms like reddit people karma farm etc, so maybe they saw that and thought there was a real problem when there wasn't.

Regardless tho I don't think this was the only reason why, I think they probably didn't like the design themselves and thought this looked better.

Edit: Also it seems like 50-70% of this thread is talking about something else lol.

[Seraphor]

More impactful, yes, but I don't know if it's a positive thing or not. The thing that piss me off is that him surviving is clearly due to being the fan's favorite. Two things that I have problem with:

1) the Exarch merging his memories AND soul to young g'raha is morally questionable, and were it attempted by other npc people probably will riot.

2) why merging with the Exarch suddenly makes current g'raha to be super OP? Before sleeping, he was more of a Scholar than fighter and his weapon is a bow. Now he suddenly a caster? Since when did he got photographic memory that even able to remember the cure for freaking tempering in just seconds? As the Exarch he's able to fight only because he link himself to the crystal tower and also use Allagan tech.

Merging memories is the equivalent of the Echo, which never gave indication that it strengthen the echo user. Merging soul is the equivalent of rejoining, which again, doesn't mean you're stronger after that.

And speaking of Crystal Tower... Why did we wake g'raha now? The Eorzean still haven't reach a technological age where they can use the CT, it was the future time line who did. And now g'raha isn't asleep anymore, what if he died or his Allagan blood lost its effect? The CT will be unguarded and unusable to us.

Who says he's super OP? He has a staff made out of a piece of the CT, that's his link to the same magic he used when he was the Crystal Exarch. In fact he's probably weaker now than he was for Shadowbringers.

But your final point is actually really good. G'raha sealed himself in the tower for a reason, and that reason still exists in this timeline.

[KizuyaKatogami]

More likely the people bringing up that phobia don't even have it, just like how the loudest voices complaining about things tend to be people complaining on behalf of others or a group they don't even belong to.
And then on platforms like reddit people karma farm etc, so maybe they saw that and thought there was a real problem when there wasn't.
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This is the case with the original forum post. The original poster created the thread about it despite not even having the phobia themselves lmao.

[Mimilu]

Edit: Also it seems like 50-70% of this thread is talking about something else lol.

I mean, it's better then watching a bunch of people bicker back and forth. :B