The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

[Fawkes]

Y'all will argue about anything.

[Vahlnir]

The old icon was making some people feel sick and it wasn't particularly well liked anyway. I don't understand the massive overreaction from some people here.

Yeah, pretty much. Personally, I think it was mostly a PR move more than anything as far as the reasoning goes. Gotta look extra good right now! They've always been very handicap friendly though with this game. Either way I don't see the big deal. Enough people didn't like it and that was probably reason enough to change it. Might as well look good in the process.

[BunniEclair]

Like the people getting a bit upset about a job icon receiving a minor revision to remove some holes?

I'd understand if it was nearly anything else, but it's four lines on a green background that represent one of the games classes, there is no hidden meaning or depth or anything to it. It's literally just an icon.

Lol right? They even said that because it is an icon specifically, and therefore would show up in almost all aspects of the game and on merch, that that is the reason they decided to change it. The change took minimal effort, and looks better anyway.

Leave it to the OF to see any small gesture of good will as some sort of slippery slope to Hugbox Hell.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Jokes aside it ultimately isn't going to matter. It's just an icon and people won't be paying too much attention to it. If only they cared this much about balance changes to healers as a whole. Who have been asking for changes since early ShB.

Or people asking for housing changes for 6-8 years. Unfortunately those things aren’t as big of a pr move as this so /shrug

[Mimilu]

Y'all will argue about anything.

It's what the internet was made for. =///w///= ♥

[Kes13a]

True. I think the point of contention that people have taken was that SE announced this change specifically to cater to an (incredible) minority of people (who suffer from a disorder-that-isn't), and the resultant concern that, once you open the door to these kinds of demands, there's potentially no end to the 'minority groups' of one sort of another who might field complaints (some of which may be far more legitimate than this).

Much like societies in the real world, in order to have Eorzea, people need to set aside their obsession with their special and unique identity (and its resultant demands on everyone else to yield before it) and compromise. We cannot have a game if it is needled to death by pearl-clutching crusaders.

I agree. I mean at the end of the day, it hasnt even been released yet. if it was a job in from day one, and suddenly this came up... -may- have a point

but changes now are.. so what?

there are much bigger hills and issues to take a stand on, an icon change is hardly the end of the world or caving to 'minority groups' when its not even in the game yet

[Serenno]

Why are people so afraid of the fact that the devs like to listen to the playerbase? Every time something like this happens there's always a group of people willing to go all "doom and gloom" because they're afraid of this setting some weird precedent or whatever. It's not like they deleted the whole job or something, literally just slightly altered the icon design because it was making some players uncomfortable. Like apart from them doing this out of concern and kindness, it's also rather smart from a business standpoint considering that they have merch with the icons on it. It's not good from a marketing/business standpoint if a design choice causes people to have negative reactions because then those people would just not buy the merch, and obviously SE wants them to. Based on the overreactions, it looks like quite a few people think that this is akin to holding the devs at gunpoint when it's actually in their best interest and results in good PR.

[Amnmaat]

I like the change but they still left the hole on the one at the bottom haha. I would prefer if it was 4 of them next to each other without the holes; something like this [pppp]

[Auryan]

I came here expecting compassion and empathy and boy was I wrong.

I for one applaud them. It's a little thing that you'd see everywhere in the menus and it's nice of them to be considerate of that. As others have said, it's a pretty easy change and isn't a slippery slope to 'omg they're removing everything scary'

This kind of thing isn't like... 'oh that's disgusting', it can trigger terrible reactions in people, like extreme negative physical reactions.

I mean, this is the Forums afterall. Why expect any positives out of minor yet well-attentioned actions? Let's speculate about nonsense for hours on end and pretend that being cynical is an interesting personality trait.

[TheSky]

I came here expecting compassion and empathy and boy was I wrong.

I for one applaud them. It's a little thing that you'd see everywhere in the menus and it's nice of them to be considerate of that. As others have said, it's a pretty easy change and isn't a slippery slope to 'omg they're removing everything scary'

This kind of thing isn't like... 'oh that's disgusting', it can trigger terrible reactions in people, like extreme negative physical reactions.

I forgot I can't disagree with things on a forum made for discussion. I'm sorry.