The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

[Fawkes]

Y'all will argue about anything.

[Mimilu]

Y'all will argue about anything.

It's what the internet was made for. =///w///= ♥

[BunniEclair]

Like the people getting a bit upset about a job icon receiving a minor revision to remove some holes?

I'd understand if it was nearly anything else, but it's four lines on a green background that represent one of the games classes, there is no hidden meaning or depth or anything to it. It's literally just an icon.

Lol right? They even said that because it is an icon specifically, and therefore would show up in almost all aspects of the game and on merch, that that is the reason they decided to change it. The change took minimal effort, and looks better anyway.

Leave it to the OF to see any small gesture of good will as some sort of slippery slope to Hugbox Hell.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Jokes aside it ultimately isn't going to matter. It's just an icon and people won't be paying too much attention to it. If only they cared this much about balance changes to healers as a whole. Who have been asking for changes since early ShB.

Or people asking for housing changes for 6-8 years. Unfortunately those things aren’t as big of a pr move as this so /shrug

[Serenno]

Why are people so afraid of the fact that the devs like to listen to the playerbase? Every time something like this happens there's always a group of people willing to go all "doom and gloom" because they're afraid of this setting some weird precedent or whatever. It's not like they deleted the whole job or something, literally just slightly altered the icon design because it was making some players uncomfortable. Like apart from them doing this out of concern and kindness, it's also rather smart from a business standpoint considering that they have merch with the icons on it. It's not good from a marketing/business standpoint if a design choice causes people to have negative reactions because then those people would just not buy the merch, and obviously SE wants them to. Based on the overreactions, it looks like quite a few people think that this is akin to holding the devs at gunpoint when it's actually in their best interest and results in good PR.

[Auryan]

I came here expecting compassion and empathy and boy was I wrong.

I for one applaud them. It's a little thing that you'd see everywhere in the menus and it's nice of them to be considerate of that. As others have said, it's a pretty easy change and isn't a slippery slope to 'omg they're removing everything scary'

This kind of thing isn't like... 'oh that's disgusting', it can trigger terrible reactions in people, like extreme negative physical reactions.

I mean, this is the Forums afterall. Why expect any positives out of minor yet well-attentioned actions? Let's speculate about nonsense for hours on end and pretend that being cynical is an interesting personality trait.

[Theodric]

I mean, this is the Forums afterall. Why expect any positives out of minor yet well-attentioned actions? Let's speculate about nonsense for hours on end and pretend that being cynical is an interesting personality trait.

In my experience, individuals with a healthy degree of critical thinking skills and a dose of scepticism are far more interesting and reliable than those who feel the need to mindlessly buy into every last little thing that a company does in the name of positive optics.

Speaking of interesting, though, despite this move supposedly not being a big deal and also a thread intended to collect feedback there's a rather troubling amount of individuals swift to launch personal attacks and indulge in character assassination of those who dare not fawn over a company for what is essentially an incredibly low effort move. Most people wouldn't even bat an eyelid if it just happened. Things change in development all the time, especially in an unfinished state. Yet the company chose to put out a statement and that statement is being critiqued.

Given what certain other corporations tied to the industry have been going through of late, I daresay it's even healthy to question the motives of those eager to show how tolerant and progressive they are. I think I'm losing count of the number of times such individuals and organisations turn out have some major skeletons within their closest! Let us hope it is not also the case with FFXIV, eh?

I don't personally believe it to be the case, though I'm also not going to go all out in launching blind support of anything and everything that happens 'just because'.

[ViolaLance]

Feelings aside. Long as they add in glamor and mount to Sage's very unique medical appearance.





Cause you know, reasons.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Why are people so afraid of the fact that the devs like to listen to the playerbase? Every time something like this happens there's always a group of people willing to go all "doom and gloom" because they're afraid of this setting some weird precedent or whatever. It's not like they deleted the whole job or something, literally just slightly altered the icon design because it was making some players uncomfortable. Like apart from them doing this out of concern and kindness, it's also rather smart from a business standpoint considering that they have merch with the icons on it. It's not good from a marketing/business standpoint if a design choice causes people to have negative reactions because then those people would just not buy the merch, and obviously SE wants them to. Based on the overreactions, it looks like quite a few people think that this is akin to holding the devs at gunpoint when it's actually in their best interest and results in good PR.

Probably because they listen to the minority for many things and don’t listen or address major things that have been around for years.

[Vahlnir]

Probably because they listen to the minority for many things and don’t listen or address major things that have been around for years.

For some things there's an easy fix. Most of the things that people have complained about for years don't have an easy fix. As much as I want to see certain changes, and despite the fact that I play a broken race (hrothgar) pretty often, I'm also realistic with my expectations.. Altering a job icon for an expansion that hasn't even been released yet is a pretty small workload, aka an easy fix.