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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Macros are part of the game, not a third party tool. They're part of the limited automation SE has built into the game.

    You still need to be present to start synthesis on the recipe then start the macro. You're going to have to use manual input at least every 45 seconds if not more often. You're not going to be able to walk away for 2 hours and come back to a stack of finished collectables.

    Someone using a third party tool to bot can walk away for that two hours.

    One is allowed by the game. One isn't. Playing by the rules is what makes the game experience fair for everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    In-game macros are part of the game. SE controls what we can or cannot accomplish using them.

    Macros that are created by using third party tools are outside of SE's control and may do things that SE does not want players to do. Therefore they are not allowed.

    It shouldn't be difficulty to understand that
    So what you quoted me on was me responding to you when you were saying it shouldn't be allowed because it impacts other players. The example I gave was of using third party macros to do Ishgard Restoration, which many do. You create a game macro for the things, then set Razer Synapse or other programs to keep it going. It doesn't take from the economy, it doesn't really give that player a benefit over others, etc. So it was just a comparison.

    That said, I already know about macros and botting. If you've read my many responses in trying to educate people, you'll see where I've fully described what they are, how they work, acknowledged what is and isn't allowed by ToS, quoted what is said to be gray areas because they can't monitor what is on our computers, and so much more. Yet, none of that was that my forum post here was supposed to be about. I didn't ask for definitions or what is allowed by SE. I asked what players personally think about botting, what the pros and cons of them are, and if they (you) would bot IF SE were to suddenly modify ToS and say all players would be allowed to use those programs?
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    Last edited by Dragonblanco; 07-19-2021 at 01:31 PM. Reason: Edited to say "when someone said" to "when you were saying"