Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
The dungeon or instance gets done a little slower but it's at most a 20-30 minute thing. It's not great but it's also not the brain destroying ordeal others make it out to be.
that's like... almost double the time an average DF run takes? even with a no DPS healer it shouldn't take that long

Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
I mean, one could also interpret it as:

The people trying to improve the playerbase: whining that certain players are playing the game as the devs designed/intended.

The contrarians: playing the game as it was designed and/or intended.

It's not some black and white "all casuals are lazy terrible players". The vast majority of casuals are competent at their rotations, although maybe not so much the perfect timing and/or weaving of skills/cool downs.

There absolutely are lazy idiots and/or trolls out there, but the vast majority of casual players are those playing at maybe 75% efficiency; probably can't clear current-tier EX without a carry, but also probably don't care to do it in the first place.
then again, the devs have also intended for players to do savage and extreme content and a big part of the JP playerbase does just that, while the EU and NA servers only have a fraction of those numbers or even attempts

Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
Like I said before, do you all really care that people get better. Or are you wanting players to get "better" to your standards because you want DF groups to do the content faster?
do you have a big enough wall for that projection? "you only want people to be faster for your own gain"
no, I simply want people to play better/improve and I'll continue to do that in every game or activity I do
a healer standing around for 90% of the dungeon or trial doing nothing is not playing the game, they might as well be afk, a tank single pulling might as well not be a tank because a dps does the single pull job better than any tank could
what exactly is wrong with wanting people to improve? what exactly is the issue with people wanting to help others?
but nah, gotta defend the kind of players that cause people to leave or vote abandon, those are the REAL players who the devs made the game for, yeah!