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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I just almost spit of my coffee laughing. Evil? raised?
    "I refuse to accede to the common interests of those around me (and whose time I necessarily affect), despite knowingly queuing for a group activity where said group's interests will likely differ from my own, and will report anyone who asks me to do accede to those interests (a.k.a., to not be a jerk)."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    You did not make the group that says I must play in whatever way.
    Yes, they did, actually. As did you. In joining the duty finder.

    Having no predefined arbitrator by which to set the rules for you explicitly does not remove conventions or expectations. It simply centers them around what is typical.

    If your interests differ from your party, well, you 4 are your own arbitrators, tacit though your communication will probably be. The more atypical someone's styles or interests, the more often that won't pan out in their favor, by whatever direction that may take. Moreover, if your interests are so atypical as to be in conflict with what is typically perceived as those of a typical player, you have no leg to stand on in arguing against a majority. And that is the situation you seem to be finding yourself in if you have to insist on your fundamental right to not give a damn about others or what the content expects from you (to play the board game solely by your own rules, as you put it, despite that being untenable by nature of it being a multi-person game).
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    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Sofia Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    "I refuse to accede to the common interests of those around me (and whose time I necessarily affect), despite knowingly queuing for a group activity whose interests will likely differ from my own, and will report anyone who asks me to do accede to those interests (a.k.a., to not be a jerk)."


    Yes, they did, actually. As did you. In joining the duty finder.

    Having no predefined arbitrator by which to set the rules for you explicitly does not remove conventions or expectations. It simply centers them around what is typical.

    If your interests differ from your party, well, you 4 are your own arbitrators, tacit though your communication will probably be. The more atypical someone's styles or interests, the more often that won't pan out in their favor, by whatever direction that may take. Moreover, if your interests are so atypical as to be in conflict with what is typically perceived as those of a typical player, you have no leg to stand on in arguing against a majority. And that is the situation you seem to be finding yourself in if you have to insist on your fundamental right to not give a damn about others or what the content expects from you (to play the board game solely by your own rules, as you put it, despite that being untenable by nature of it being a multi-person game).


    You are right in this, but the community itself is very much accepting of players such as myself as long as the content gets done. Like i've only been kicked out one time and that was because I had to afk. You can play the class how you want and still get content done. And the community is very much understanding and accepting of that. The content is design around players like myself, and most people who play this game understands that. If the community started mass kicking players like me. They will find themselves kicking a TON of players each time. It would just be too much trouble.
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