Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Faafetai]

I understand what you were saying, I was just trying to point out that because DF groups don't have prerequisite on player skills. Anything one side can say about ruining fun, or dealing with people. Can be used by the other side. It is a losing battle for both sides.




It is like playing a board game, and the board game does not have any rules. You follow your own code, I follow mine. We can't argue with each other as the board game does not allow it. So who is right on how they play said board game? That is DF.

Now imagine that I am your tank and you are my healer. We are in Mt Gulg. Do you think we would clear the dungeon if you were only using cure 1 and I were using no cooldowns whilst I decided to do 'The pull of legends'. Would you truly be content not able to clear the duty you queued for via the 'convenient duty finder', timer to lockout of the story mode dungeon ticking down. Maybe this is the dps' first time here and they are stuck with a tank and a healer who are 'playing their way' which in turn is not letting them clear the duty. They can not solo the dungeon, they just wished to have fun, but they are just dying over and over again, due to others on their team being selfish.

Maybe I was just raised differently, but this is just evil. Truly, truly evil. You probably do not care because you are playing the board game with no rules, but the board game always had rules. You are taking the board game they wished to play with you, and throwing it into a volcano. It is a blatant disregarded to the well being of those around you and you should be ashamed.

[Jadedsins]

Pfffffffffffff, I figured out that Jadedsins was the wife before even finishing reading through the posts. Same style, same talking points.

Balmung > Crystal. Now I understand the meme, I thought it might be one of those things that people say and it is not really true but holy jeebus. I am tapping out "who cares as long as we complete the duty" broke the mind. It is over for me.. Mia. I will be M.I.A.

This is the only multiplayer game I have ever played where people act this way, never in all my time have I seen something so patently absurd.

The way you are acting. Yes we would be very much happy if you did not Queue in DF. You act like you have a moral backing behind you because we don't agree. Raised better? Come on now. That is funny, because a game is just a game. I don't need progression to enjoy the game. You take this game far too serious, your whole examples made me chuckle. Like, not everyone has the same values as you. DF content is design for people who can play how they want and still get through it. No need to be a drama queen about "skill" in a match making system.

[ZedxKayn]

lol

[DynnDiablos]

The way you are acting. Yes we would be very much happy if you did not Queue in DF. You take this game way too serious, and act like you have a moral backing behind you because we don't agree. Raised better? Come on now. That is funny, because a game is just a game. I don't need progression to enjoy the game. You take this game far too serious, your whole examples made me chuckle. Like, not everyone has the same values as you. DF content is design for people who can play how they want and still get through it. No need to be a drama queen about "skill" in a match making system.

I am not sure why this game is treated like some professional job to some people. It's a GAME.

[Endariel]

I am not sure why this game is treated like some professional job to some people. It's a GAME.

but we did never emphasize that it's a job? Yet again an unnecessary hyperbole.
But what i'm arguing about.
It's impossible to change the mindset of a casual ultimate

[Rinhi]

I am not sure why this game is treated like some professional job to some people. It's a GAME.

it's a game, exactly!
so people should actually play it instead of refusing to with some asinine excuse for why they're not doing it

[Jadedsins]

it's a game, exactly!
so people should actually play it instead of refusing to with some asinine excuse for why they're not doing it

People are playing the game, and getting through the content without meeting your standards.

but we did never emphasize that it's a job? Yet again an unnecessary hyperbole.
But what i'm arguing about.
It's impossible to change the mindset of a casual ultimate

Just how people are acting and examples people gave. It pretty much seems like a job the way people acting about it.

Also nothing wrong with being a casual. This is a casual game and the community embraces it.

[DynnDiablos]

it's a game, exactly!
so people should actually play it instead of refusing to with some asinine excuse for why they're not doing it

I know my job's rotations thanks and I do well and don't just sit there. I do PLAY...doesn't mean I like elitists trying to harp on every little thing people do wrong in DF. Don't like roulette? Stay the heck out of it or form a party with people you know. I play this game for the story/gathering/crafting. Roulettes and DF runs are simply for tomes and gil for me. I am not looking for someone to be parsing me and expecting the ultimate in perfection in a daily roulette in Satasha. Thankfully, YOU are not on my DC so I never have to worry about being plopped in a party with you.

[Endariel]

I know my job's rotations thanks and I do well and don't just sit there. I do PLAY...

That's actually great. And I'm dead serious, no sarcasm.
But we are discussing players that don't even do that

[Rinhi]

I know my job's rotations thanks and I do well and don't just sit there. I do PLAY...doesn't mean I like elitists trying to harp on every little thing people do wrong in DF. Don't like roulette? Stay the heck out of it or form a party with people you know. I play this game for the story/gathering/crafting. Roulettes and DF runs are simply for tomes and gil for me. I am not looking for someone to be parsing me and expecting the ultimate in perfection in a daily roulette in Satasha. Thankfully, YOU are not on my DC so I never have to worry about being plopped in a party with you.

you're completely missing the point of my post and are projecting a HELL of a lot of things into my post that just aren't there
like seriously, what the f are you talking about?
some of you people seriously need to get over yourselves with your thin-skinned projections over other players

but to give you a serious response:
people, me included, are not talking about players like you or anyone that plays their class decently, there are absolutely 0 (zero) of "us" asking for players to use their perfect rotation or anything and yet, that's THE thing you or others always and I mean always seem to focus on
we are talking about players who either knowingly play badly in ilvl locked level 80 content or have been taught the class wrong by the game/their friends because you can brute force yourself through 99% of the content
you have to invent scenarios and headcanons where you have to paint me as some elitist bad guy because I dare to criticize this on the official forum and yet, if you'd see me encounter this in DF, I'd try to help the player in question, but hey, my willingness to help someone improve is apparently toxic, so I should stop doing that and instead coddle and tell someone in lvl 80 content that using nothing but cure 1 is perfectly fine and that everyone else asking them to use something else are toxic elitists, right?
DF is fun, the things you can see and experience in it are fun, but after you wipe to E12N 5 times because both healers use only cure and benefic 1, it stops being fun, there's only so much the rest of the party can do to mitigate that
both of us are playing the game for the very same reason (minus crafting for me, tho I'm getting there), I don't do high end content, so trying to paint me as some elitist tryhard raider is really damn cringe, in my eyes