Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
Right, you can make your own group that takes hours to fill and disbands after 3 wipes, because most people who join learning parties are still just hoping they'll luck into a situation where they can get carried. People who want to learn but don't already have a static have no reasonable way in.

Trusts are the answer; SE just needs to go all in on them.

This game is casual friendly in a lot of ways, but I do agree with this thread in that it does a horrible job of giving casual players a way into the more challenging content. I've personally kind of given up on this game in that regard. I am looking forward to Lost Ark, though.
Hours to fill? Fairly disingenuous. Ultimate party finders take hours to fill, sometimes the final dungeon of the tier will take an hour if that, the rest? Nah. I was also specifically talking about making a static if you're serious about getting personal growth.


I would say it's honestly not that bad the main issue is people will bash you for making mistakes every now and again but there are plenty people genuinely looking to learn.

I recently joined a fresh prog e10s group and spent an hour wiping for our peak to only be seeing void gate 2.
The main issue was one of our tanks was brand new to not only the tier but also raiding, and tanking in general.
Only level 80 was their tank and they were in 520 crafted gear with a 530 savage belt. No extreme weapon, probably no extreme clears either. They simply weren't ready for the content they were putting themselves in.
That said 7 other people still suffered through an hour with them with minimal chide and quite a bit of explaining and help.

Are there people looking for a free carry like OP? Yes. Does every single learning party disband after 3 wipes? No.

I am looking forward to Sword of Legends Online specifically because of the concept of one of their healers.