Open World PvP

[SturmChurro]

Okay and that’s them. Did i say i wanted to system to be a grief fest? No. Other people have also stated that they just simply want an opt-in [...] Whatever the reason may be, there’s different arguments for how this would be implemented. Some people want to grief, some people just want more open world content and more fun/engaging pvp.

What I don't like is how, a lot of the time when I see something like this pop up for discussions online, apparently wanting to PvP makes you a bad person. Like.. no? I (we?) just like a different type of gameplay experience. If open PvP is opt-in, like joining a PvP server, or a PvP game, and a person can't handle being ganked, or having to participate in PvP... then I'm sorry, but maybe PvP actually isn't for them.. and that's okay! .. But like.. people shouldn't complain about it when they might have to PvP if they chose to be there..

If FFXIV actually did open world PvP, let's be real, it would be opt in.

[Artemiz]

Agreed. Even if the technical issues were ironed out, the community is utterly incompatible with the concept.

By technical issues I assume you mean rebalancing the entire game, regardless of an opt in option, you would still have to do that.

What I don't like is how, a lot of the time when I see something like this pop up for discussions online, apparently wanting to PvP makes you a bad person. Like.. no? I (we?) just like a different type of gameplay experience. If open PvP is opt-in, like joining a PvP server, or a PvP game, and a person can't handle being ganked, or having to participate in PvP... then I'm sorry, but maybe PvP actually isn't for them.. and that's okay! .. But like.. people shouldn't complain about it when they might have to PvP if they chose to be there..

If FFXIV actually did open world PvP, let's be real, it would be opt in.

Wanting PvP doesn't make anyone a bad person, competition with a human opponent is fun. Enjoying ruining someone else's day, like at a wedding, when they don't want to fight you most certainly does make you a bad person.

[Taebok]

I think it’s pretty sad tbh that people have grown so scared of change,growth, and new things.

Yeah ... um ... so exactly what part of this is new?
There's tons of games that already offer PvP in the way it's being requested.
Go play one.

[BaconBits]

Obviously it's the wedding goers faults for not bringing a veritable armory of weapons to defend their selves in the event of a spontaneous wedding raid :y

[SturmChurro]

Wanting PvP doesn't make anyone a bad person, competition with a human opponent is fun. Enjoying ruining someone else's day, like at a wedding, when they don't want to fight you most certainly does make you a bad person.

No it does not. If they have rolled somewhere where they can be PvPed at a wedding, they should be expecting the possibility of having to defend their event. A lot of fun has been had in games with event crashings. It should be fun for both sides really. I've seen event hosts have their guild, or friends as guards to defend the event. A lot of player cooperation. It really is quite fun.

Obviously it's the wedding goers faults for not bringing a veritable armory of weapons to defend their selves in the event of a spontaneous wedding raid :y

I literally just posted about guards at events!

[DPZ2]

The game is not designed for PvP in the open world, the zone instances are not designed to support PvP in the open world, the classes are not balanced to support PvP in the open world.

The justification for PvP in the open world does not exist. There is neither Horde vs Alliance nor Faction vs Faction nor "Two sides contest for existence in a world torn apart by War".

You want PvP in the open world, try ArcheAge, Blade and Soul, or any of the other PvP-centric MMORPGs that are available to you. This one wasn't built for it. And I don't want the developers spending time trying to figure out how to make it happen.

I still don't have fond memories as a non-PvP flagged player leveling through Darkshore when Burning Crusade came out.

[Anhra]

What I don't like is how, a lot of the time when I see something like this pop up for discussions online, apparently wanting to PvP makes you a bad person. Like.. no? I (we?) just like a different type of gameplay experience. If open PvP is opt-in, like joining a PvP server, or a PvP game, and a person can't handle being ganked, or having to participate in PvP... then I'm sorry, but maybe PvP actually isn't for them.. and that's okay! .. But like.. people shouldn't complain about it when they might have to PvP if they chose to be there..

If FFXIV actually did open world PvP, let's be real, it would be opt in.

It always amuses me alot how People in this game complain about pvpers being the most toxic existence in the game, yet they show the same amount of toxicity or even moreso when they try to voice aganist said content, despite not having a clue what the true fun of pvp is all about.

I hope that FFXIV will one day, have its dedicated PvP Servers, but first, we need to have properly functioning Jobs for it.

[van_arn]

Obviously it's the wedding goers faults for not bringing a veritable armory of weapons to defend their selves in the event of a spontaneous wedding raid :y

Actually yes, and they should’ve hired mercenaries. That and if they couldn’t handle a little friendly wedding crash they shouldn’t have been on a pvp server/opened themselves to pvp anyway.

Their fault, but much laughs to be had for everyone else.

[van_arn]

By technical issues I assume you mean rebalancing the entire game, regardless of an opt in option, you would still have …

It’s not simply rebalancing. We have separate pvp skills from pve and the game isn’t set up to swap between those sets outside of specific, designated, pvp areas— similar to how swimming only works past a hidden loading screen to another area.

It’s all for nothing because even if they went through the Herculean task of making it possible, this community wouldn’t be able to handle it.

[Delis]

No it does not. If they have rolled somewhere where they can be PvPed at a wedding, they should be expecting the possibility of having to defend their event. A lot of fun has been had in games with event crashings. It should be fun for both sides really. I've seen event hosts have their guild, or friends as guards to defend the event. A lot of player cooperation. It really is quite fun.

I literally just posted about guards at events!

Yes! I use to be a guard for my guild in another mmo on the pvp server. It was fun, we would do patrols, we had scouts running around the area keeping an eye out for any threats. It was a lot of fun, and no bad blood between people.